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A lot of these young dudes can’t play at a high level yet either. Lowers the quality of play
20% of Current NBA Players are 30+, down from 35% in 2001.
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NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Expansion practically gave those old heads a lifelineA lot of those old guys in the 90s were there because the league was low in talent, not because of 3 and 4 year college players.
Rick Mahorn
Antoine Carr
Charles Oakley
Mario Elie
Sam Perkins
Kevin Willis
Chris Mullin
All of those players were playing into their late 30's even up to age 40. In today's game, they get the Andre Drummond/Isiah Thomas treatment at age 32. Even no-talent hack like Chris Dudley played into Age 38 in that era.
that 'locker room presence' shyt is the most overrated thing going in the league. in reality, these vets will tell you quick they're not babysitters and more than anything they don't want the dumb stuff coming back to them as they have more to lose.
its seen as a player's bandaid solution to organizational integrity top to bottom and its never enough.
its seen as a player's bandaid solution to organizational integrity top to bottom and its never enough.
there isn't a level of play much lower than what rudy gay old ass is doing right now
threattonature
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I think that was in part due to damn near a whole generation of college players that didn't live up their potential. So he left the door open for the older players to star longer.
I do think it would be helpful if NBA mandated some roster spots for older players as I do think having a veteran presence in the locker room can help younger players navigate all the newfound fame and money.
The average age decreased from a peak of 28 years to 26 years.
How many players were exactly 35-36, compared to how many are exactly 33-34.
As with most "academic" studies, people will twist and bend numbers and graphs to make the results of their study more potent.
Other than that, the depth of players is on another level as is the athleticism and speed. It's hard for old heads to just use their skills and brains, you've got to be special for that.
How many players were exactly 35-36, compared to how many are exactly 33-34.
As with most "academic" studies, people will twist and bend numbers and graphs to make the results of their study more potent.
Other than that, the depth of players is on another level as is the athleticism and speed. It's hard for old heads to just use their skills and brains, you've got to be special for that.
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This video captures how a lot of younger players lack fundamentals. Young dudes getting worked by a 43 year old Cuttino Mobley. Kobe and Pippen were laughing. RIP Kobe!
And yes the game has changed, but young dudes can still learn a lot from the vets especially pertaining to skills that are still extremely valuable in playoff basketball (eg mid-range, operating half court offense).
The two much too soon generation that came after failed the league. That's why old dudes were still running things till 00'.
NOPE...
THERES A LOT OF GOOD
NON HOF PLAYERS I DIDNT EVEN NAME LIKE...
KEMP
SPREWELL
JUWAN
JALEN
DERRICK COLEMAN
LARRY JOHNSON
GLEN RICE
BIG DOG GLEN ROBINSON
MAHMOUD RAUF
VAN EXEL
SAM CASELL
HORRY
EDDDIE JONES
DENNIS SCOTT
KENDILL GILL
TONI KUKOC
CHAUNCEY BILLUPS
ALAN HOUSTON
STEVE SMITH
JIM JACKSON
STACKHOUSE
MCDYESS
JOE SMITH
DAMON STOUDAMIRE
SHEED
BRENT BARRY
CAMBY
FINLEY
MARBURY
TOINE
PEJA
J ONEAL
ARTEST
ILLGAUSKAS
D FISH
VAN HORN
BOBBY JACKSON
BIBBY
WHITE CHOCOLATE
JAMISON
LARRY HUGHES
RICKY DAVIS
BONZI
AL HARRINGTON
SREPHEN JACKSON
CUTINO
RASHARD LEWIS
FRANCIS
ELTON BRAND
ODOM
ANDRE MILLER
RIP HAMILTON
JASON TERRY
WALLY SCHERBIAK
COREY MAGETTE
SHAWN MARION
VIN BAKER
get these nets
Veteran
MFers ran out of topics for their sports shows.
I was literally just thinking this. The only way to offset this is to expand rosters and add more teams. As someone said, a situation like the Grizzlies doesn’t happen if there are more vets in that locker room.
The youth boom is a natural progression but it would benefit the league overall to have more vets available.
I think a few things at play. One the game changed drastically in the past decade, so dudes who looked like they should have had promising careers in like a Greg Monroe or Jahlil Okafor were out of the league before they even reached their 30s.
On top of that there is a much wider pool of talent to pull from with the game becoming more global. Players that were playing in their 30s in the 90s legitimately deserved that roster spot because there was less talent to go around over all. So they truly were one of the best 400 players in the world at the time. Now there are a lot more young players from all over competing for those spots.
On top of that there is a much wider pool of talent to pull from with the game becoming more global. Players that were playing in their 30s in the 90s legitimately deserved that roster spot because there was less talent to go around over all. So they truly were one of the best 400 players in the world at the time. Now there are a lot more young players from all over competing for those spots.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
I agree with all this.
No they weren’t. Both were lottery picks. Kobe was #13 and TMac was #9.
Yeah and allegedly Kobe's camp threatened that he would go play in Italy if a team he didn't want to play for drafted him. That probably spooked a lot of teams since he grew up in Italy and wasn't desperate for an NBA check.
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players were routinely playing 75 plus games per year and these young exuberant talents stay on the bench in the latest street wear couture..
What good is youth if it's not available for fans to consistently enjoy?
players were routinely playing 75 plus games per year and these young exuberant talents stay on the bench in the latest street wear couture..What good is youth if it's not available for fans to consistently enjoy?