2 white men shot Ahmaud Arbery in Brunswick, GA. UPDATE: GBI ARRESTS BOTH MEN & CAMERA MAN

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A good lawyer is going to need to prove that the white dude with the gun posed a threat to Arbey's life and that Arbery was trying to defend himself by taking the gun away. Or else this will go the same way the Travon case went with the stand your ground bullshyt.

Only when CaCs are involved is running up on someone with a gun not posing a threat to that person’s life in and of itself.

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A good lawyer is going to need to prove that the white dude with the gun posed a threat to Arbey's life and that Arbery was trying to defend himself by taking the gun away. Or else this will go the same way the Travon case went with the stand your ground bullshyt.

you stupid fukk there's video of the incident :mindblown:
 

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I get what u are saying

Thats what logic tells you but the criminal standard, the burden is on the prosecution to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt. Im afraid this case is not open and shut based on the laws on the book in Georgia.

And I gotta add and history tells us that this standard works very well for defendants in high profile cases like this one.

Georgia’s citizen’s arrest states: “A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.”

The operative word is reasonable and probable. Its not correct or incorrect but reasonable grounds of suspicion. If it hinges on that, then felony murder could be thrown out if a jury finds the McMichaels pursuit reasonable under that stupid citizens arrest law.

Self defense is already a complicated thing in the legal ream especially where there is no duty to retreat by the clear aggressor. Like I said this is an interaction of two controversial and complicated laws and is not a slam dunk for a conviction in a criminal trial.

Based on the Georgia citizen's arrest law, it can be argued that the killers had no grounds to make a citizen's arrest. According to the father, he saw Aubrey "hauling ass," down the street, and "thought" Aubrey was a burglar targeting homes, and made mentioned of a previous incident in which Aubrey "reach down in his pants as if he had a weapon" (which is not a crime). They never saw Aubrey commit a crime. They were not aware of him going into the construction site, they just saw him running down the street. According the police report, they chase down Aubrey to "question" him.
 

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Eye witnesses and camera has him inside a house under reconstruction, which is against Georgia law according to the video. That results in a felony and you can perform a citizens arrest if you catch someone in the act.

However I don't think it was THAT serious to chase him. He didn't take anything, just call the cops and let them know the location.

Looking mighty grim folks.
 

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Excellent point!

A critical point of having your ccw is you're never supposed to brandish. Though...it may be negated if GA is open carry.
Yeah in TX you can open carry a pistol with a ccw ,but rifles and shotguns can be out and visible in your car.
 

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Eye witnesses and camera has him inside a house under reconstruction, which is against Georgia law according to the video. That results in a felony and you can perform a citizens arrest if you catch someone in the act.

However I don't think it was THAT serious to chase him. He didn't take anything, just call the cops and let them know the location.

Looking mighty grim folks.

Like I said, they're going to need a good lawyer for Arbery. If some Youtuber can present this argument imagine what those 2 white dudes lawyers are going to bring to court.
 
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Based on the Georgia citizen's arrest law, it can be argued that the killers had no grounds to make a citizen's arrest. According to the father, he saw Aubrey "hauling ass," down the street, and "thought" Aubrey was a burglar targeting homes, and made mentioned of a previous incident in which Aubrey "reach down in his pants as if he had a weapon" (which is not a crime). They never saw Aubrey commit a crime. They were not aware of him going into the construction site, they just saw him running down the street. According the police report, they chase down Aubrey to "question" him.


Yeah. There's video evidence of a black male going inside of a construction building. Someone also shouted at the guy in the construction building. Looks like it's ole boy too

When that video is brought up in court it'll be a matter of identifying exactly who was on that camera

Like I said, they're going to need a good lawyer for Arbery. If some Youtuber can present this argument imagine what those 2 white dudes lawyers are going to being to court.

It's not even in argument. There's 1 eye witness and a camera showing someone going inside of a house under construction


I will say I don't like Georgia law and citizen's arrest, seems like a gray area
 
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