2 of Amerika’s Most Wanted: The Official GOAT franchise Boss Angeles Lakers 2019-2020 season thread

[Osmosis]

It's not exactly rocket science.. They're the two best wings since Jordan and both of their stans believe their guy deserves the sole claim.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

LeBron has been the most scrutinized player in that period as well with detractors since high school.

Kobe while he got some shyt also had certain media members who dikkrode tf out of him and by that ‘08-‘10 stretch I don’t recall him getting much hate.

Kobe wasn’t hated as much as LeBron, especially LeBron in the Decision era. LeBron brought an irrational hatred that I didn’t see Kobe get.

Nikka is you serious? Kobe got called a rapist, chased Shaq out of LA and had all sorts of hate throughout the 2000s. Lebron hate only got big during Miami. Since 2016 he has been called the GOAT and a top 3 player as much as he’s been criticized. Kobe never got that true love untill his retirement.

 

[areohbee824]

City Edition uniforms to unveil end of this week or early next week. Think they’re going to get it right this season

 

[THE MACHINE]

39.5 Harden - right now better not get fukking MVP

Why do you say this? Are you just basing it off of history or are you saying he shouldn't even be in consideration based on other candidates this year? I see no reason he shouldn't be right in the mix as of now.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Why do you say this? Are you just basing it off of history or are you saying he shouldn't even be in consideration based on other candidates this year? I see no reason he shouldn't be right in the mix as of now.

His numbers are fluff built on pure popcorn.. It’s even worse now then ever...

He has the most hollow numbers in history...

 

[THE MACHINE]

His numbers are fluff built on pure popcorn.. It’s even worse now then ever...

He has the most hollow numbers in history...

Its a regular season award and his numbers are built for the regular season. He doesn't load manage and its led them to 5 of 6 seasons with at least 53+ wins. Might win 60 games this year. I don't understand how he could be discounted as a top-3 MVP candidate

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Might win 60 games this year.

 

[Sinnerman]

Why you gotta be that way, Blazers ain't never done anything to hurt nobody man.




Just for historical comparison, here are the top ten scoring seasons in NBA history.

50.4 Wilt - no MVP
44.8 Wilt - no MVP
39.5 Harden - right now better not get fukking MVP
38.4 Wilt - no MVP
37.6 Wilt - MVP
37.1 Jordan - no MVP
36.9 Wilt - no MVP
36.1 Harden - no MVP
35.6 Rick Barry - no MVP
35.4 Kobe - no MVP

Only ONE of the top ten scoring seasons in NBA history led to an MVP. Kobestans bytching about that as if it was some media bias are historically clueless. Wilt couldn't even pull an MVP averaging 50 and 26 on 51% shooting for a 49-win team that nearly made the Finals, and you think Kobe automatically deserves it going 35 and 5 on 45% shooting for a 45 win team that couldn't make it out of the first round?

The Blazers swept us in 1977

Even though it happened sixteen years before I was born I'm still salty over it

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Nikka is you serious? Kobe got called a rapist, chased Shaq out of LA and had all sorts of hate throughout the 2000s. Lebron hate only got big during Miami. Since 2016 he has been called the GOAT and a top 3 player as much as he’s been criticized. Kobe never got that true love untill his retirement.

There were few in the media who ever called him a rapist. That was more general public. You know, because he was literally indicted for rape and all that.

Why do you say this? Are you just basing it off of history or are you saying he shouldn't even be in consideration based on other candidates this year? I see no reason he shouldn't be right in the mix as of now.

Because it's pure usage. He's throwing up a shytload of shots and baiting the refs into an unbelievable number of foul calls. His numbers aren't even that impressive outside of an extremely high scoring total, and he gets that total not through efficiency but just by taking an incredible number of his team's shots. That ain't an MVP to me.

 

[rapbeats]

I don’t know either.

The famous adidas ABCD camp where Lenny Cooke challenged Kobe to a 1-on-1 and LeBron worked Lenny and passed him was in 2001. LeBron was a 16 year old high school junior meanwhile Kobe was pretty much a young veteran at that point with All-Star and titles under his belt. Those kids at that camp were looking up to Kobe which should tell you everything.

I think the Nike MVP Puppets commercial is really what started it with LeBron taking over the league in Kobe’s relative extended prime is what led to it.

let me explain how this occurred. you are some what on to something witht he nike campaign. but they just played on what was already there. but lets start off by saying it had zero to do with bron or kobe.

because bron was a media creation. he was Espn's baby. they never had a chance to or were brave enough to follow a high school kid around like that. Kobe and KG were ballers, but they were not like bron fresh out. maybe kobe would've put up the numbers if he was on a bad team not sitting behind allstars. but bron was a mature team player who couldnt be stopped if he chose to score due to his size, strength, agility and handle with both hands. not that he was better than kobe. but he was more mature as a TEAM guy than most players because he was born as a team guy, thats who he is, kobe and most guys are born scorers that either have to learn how to move the ball well, or they do a good job of both. so lets move on from there.

so basically espn hitched themselves to the perfect wagon in bron. they said he was the truth, and he actually was.
remember nike still kept kobe under contract after the eagle, Co incident. but they kept pretty much all ad campaigns quiet when it came to him and his shoes for years after. until they felt the coast was clear to push him again (Kobe system...etc.)

this is during the change form #8 to #24. that was also about re-branding him post colorado. he wanted a fresh change, and so did nike and all his advertisers including the nba.

There's two things going on with the nba in regards to kobe. Think about this, kobe is a black guy, that was partially raised in Philly and Italy. He speaks 3 languages, italian, english, and spanish. America has a ton of spanish and obviously english speakers. the world has a TON of spanish and english speakers. why on earth would you not push kobe out there as the #1 ambassador of the nba? You should have. but they couldnt after the eagle, co incident.

In addition, because of what david stern learned about having only one mega star in jordan and only promoting that guy when he leaves/retires, your league will suffer for awhile. so the nba knew, never attach all of your horses to one wagon. so they had to get rid of Kobe quick. they were trying to bury him and say he was old before he was actually old. they were trying to give it to bron, and then they started trying to give it to curry and KD shortly after. They dont want any one player to hold that mega star status and only promote that person for fear when that person retires it will take years to replace him. so keep the thing moving and everyone will like the league in general . thats the idea.

So add it all up, the nba doesnt want to be stuck with one main guy, hence bron is better that kobe talk even when it wasnt true

the nba/nike doesnt want to promote eagle, co kobe ....lets push bron harder for now.

ESPN the main network, basically raised bron on the media side of things since high school. thats their baby. Bron is better than Kobe.

 

[Flex Luger]

Gotta take advantage of these teams on the backend of a B2B. Foot on the neck as soon as the ball is is tipped.

 

[rapbeats]

Gotta take advantage of these teams on the backend of a B2B. Foot on the neck as soon as the ball is is tipped.

i have to agree with this sentiment. i wish Ad's shoulder wasnt hurt. but since it is. we need the role players to make their open shots. thats all we need from them. just take and make the open shots and dont do anything stupid like throwing the ball away without someone playing defense on you. no unforced TO's.
we do that we will whip any team that isnt named clippers, bucks, rockets, dallas and maybe i'm missing 1 or 2 more teams.

the rest of these teams will easily get that work if the role guys just do their part, nothing fancy, nothing special. we dont even need heroics from them with bron and ad on the team. with dwight, AD, Javale patrolling the paint for blocks and boards.

 

[ISO]

let me explain how this occurred. you are some what on to something witht he nike campaign. but they just played on what was already there. but lets start off by saying it had zero to do with bron or kobe.

because bron was a media creation. he was Espn's baby. they never had a chance to or were brave enough to follow a high school kid around like that. Kobe and KG were ballers, but they were not like bron fresh out. maybe kobe would've put up the numbers if he was on a bad team not sitting behind allstars. but bron was a mature team player who couldnt be stopped if he chose to score due to his size, strength, agility and handle with both hands. not that he was better than kobe. but he was more mature as a TEAM guy than most players because he was born as a team guy, thats who he is, kobe and most guys are born scorers that either have to learn how to move the ball well, or they do a good job of both. so lets move on from there.

so basically espn hitched themselves to the perfect wagon in bron. they said he was the truth, and he actually was.
remember nike still kept kobe under contract after the eagle, Co incident. but they kept pretty much all ad campaigns quiet when it came to him and his shoes for years after. until they felt the coast was clear to push him again (Kobe system...etc.)

this is during the change form #8 to #24. that was also about re-branding him post colorado. he wanted a fresh change, and so did nike and all his advertisers including the nba.

There's two things going on with the nba in regards to kobe. Think about this, kobe is a black guy, that was partially raised in Philly and Italy. He speaks 3 languages, italian, english, and spanish. America has a ton of spanish and obviously english speakers. the world has a TON of spanish and english speakers. why on earth would you not push kobe out there as the #1 ambassador of the nba? You should have. but they couldnt after the eagle, co incident.

In addition, because of what david stern learned about having only one mega star in jordan and only promoting that guy when he leaves/retires, your league will suffer for awhile. so the nba knew, never attach all of your horses to one wagon. so they had to get rid of Kobe quick. they were trying to bury him and say he was old before he was actually old. they were trying to give it to bron, and then they started trying to give it to curry and KD shortly after. They dont want any one player to hold that mega star status and only promote that person for fear when that person retires it will take years to replace him. so keep the thing moving and everyone will like the league in general . thats the idea.

So add it all up, the nba doesnt want to be stuck with one main guy, hence bron is better that kobe talk even when it wasnt true

the nba/nike doesnt want to promote eagle, co kobe ....lets push bron harder for now.

ESPN the main network, basically raised bron on the media side of things since high school. thats their baby. Bron is better than Kobe.

This is why I can’t with you nikkas

You’re basically arguing that LeBron was a media creation, the league was trying to phase Kobe out, and that Kobe was better than LeBron in a time period where its highly arguable that he wasn’t.

 

[VegasCAC]

let me explain how this occurred. you are some what on to something witht he nike campaign. but they just played on what was already there. but lets start off by saying it had zero to do with bron or kobe.

because bron was a media creation. he was Espn's baby. they never had a chance to or were brave enough to follow a high school kid around like that. Kobe and KG were ballers, but they were not like bron fresh out. maybe kobe would've put up the numbers if he was on a bad team not sitting behind allstars. but bron was a mature team player who couldnt be stopped if he chose to score due to his size, strength, agility and handle with both hands. not that he was better than kobe. but he was more mature as a TEAM guy than most players because he was born as a team guy, thats who he is, kobe and most guys are born scorers that either have to learn how to move the ball well, or they do a good job of both. so lets move on from there.

so basically espn hitched themselves to the perfect wagon in bron. they said he was the truth, and he actually was.
remember nike still kept kobe under contract after the eagle, Co incident. but they kept pretty much all ad campaigns quiet when it came to him and his shoes for years after. until they felt the coast was clear to push him again (Kobe system...etc.)

this is during the change form #8 to #24. that was also about re-branding him post colorado. he wanted a fresh change, and so did nike and all his advertisers including the nba.

There's two things going on with the nba in regards to kobe. Think about this, kobe is a black guy, that was partially raised in Philly and Italy. He speaks 3 languages, italian, english, and spanish. America has a ton of spanish and obviously english speakers. the world has a TON of spanish and english speakers. why on earth would you not push kobe out there as the #1 ambassador of the nba? You should have. but they couldnt after the eagle, co incident.

In addition, because of what david stern learned about having only one mega star in jordan and only promoting that guy when he leaves/retires, your league will suffer for awhile. so the nba knew, never attach all of your horses to one wagon. so they had to get rid of Kobe quick. they were trying to bury him and say he was old before he was actually old. they were trying to give it to bron, and then they started trying to give it to curry and KD shortly after. They dont want any one player to hold that mega star status and only promote that person for fear when that person retires it will take years to replace him. so keep the thing moving and everyone will like the league in general . thats the idea.

So add it all up, the nba doesnt want to be stuck with one main guy, hence bron is better that kobe talk even when it wasnt true

the nba/nike doesnt want to promote eagle, co kobe ....lets push bron harder for now.

ESPN the main network, basically raised bron on the media side of things since high school. thats their baby. Bron is better than Kobe.

terrible post

 

[10bandz]

let me explain how this occurred. you are some what on to something witht he nike campaign. but they just played on what was already there. but lets start off by saying it had zero to do with bron or kobe.

because bron was a media creation. he was Espn's baby. they never had a chance to or were brave enough to follow a high school kid around like that. Kobe and KG were ballers, but they were not like bron fresh out. maybe kobe would've put up the numbers if he was on a bad team not sitting behind allstars. but bron was a mature team player who couldnt be stopped if he chose to score due to his size, strength, agility and handle with both hands. not that he was better than kobe. but he was more mature as a TEAM guy than most players because he was born as a team guy, thats who he is, kobe and most guys are born scorers that either have to learn how to move the ball well, or they do a good job of both. so lets move on from there.

so basically espn hitched themselves to the perfect wagon in bron. they said he was the truth, and he actually was.
remember nike still kept kobe under contract after the eagle, Co incident. but they kept pretty much all ad campaigns quiet when it came to him and his shoes for years after. until they felt the coast was clear to push him again (Kobe system...etc.)

this is during the change form #8 to #24. that was also about re-branding him post colorado. he wanted a fresh change, and so did nike and all his advertisers including the nba.

There's two things going on with the nba in regards to kobe. Think about this, kobe is a black guy, that was partially raised in Philly and Italy. He speaks 3 languages, italian, english, and spanish. America has a ton of spanish and obviously english speakers. the world has a TON of spanish and english speakers. why on earth would you not push kobe out there as the #1 ambassador of the nba? You should have. but they couldnt after the eagle, co incident.

In addition, because of what david stern learned about having only one mega star in jordan and only promoting that guy when he leaves/retires, your league will suffer for awhile. so the nba knew, never attach all of your horses to one wagon. so they had to get rid of Kobe quick. they were trying to bury him and say he was old before he was actually old. they were trying to give it to bron, and then they started trying to give it to curry and KD shortly after. They dont want any one player to hold that mega star status and only promote that person for fear when that person retires it will take years to replace him. so keep the thing moving and everyone will like the league in general . thats the idea.

So add it all up, the nba doesnt want to be stuck with one main guy, hence bron is better that kobe talk even when it wasnt true

the nba/nike doesnt want to promote eagle, co kobe ....lets push bron harder for now.

ESPN the main network, basically raised bron on the media side of things since high school. thats their baby. Bron is better than Kobe.

they're not really ready for this discussion brehs. They never will.

Let's get this thread back on track tho fukk these LeGBT nikkas man. OKC probably deflated from last nights game....hopefully we can get another W before 4 game road trip