2 of Amerika’s Most Wanted: The Official GOAT franchise Boss Angeles Lakers 2019-2020 season thread

[Flex Luger]

 

[Flex Luger]

 

[Sinnerman]

AD better grab hold of his vagina and play tomorrow

 

[Trojan 24]

Bron Harper looked more like Ron Harper last night

And Kuz looking powerless without his Hype man Zo

 

[Trojan 24]

FUCC OUT THIS THREAD U FRUIT

Now we getting AD with just BI and picks

 

[ALonelyDad]

This is corny. nikkas acting like Kuzma and KCP weren't bricks last year too

He likes to call out every nba trainer while he coaches middle school kids, you can sense the jealousy. His friend also coaches Kuz, let’s see him call out mgrads

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

13 months ago I said Kuzma needed to be dangled as trade bait because he was a bad fit and BI was the keeper and a LOT of LWO brehs were shytting on me. When I said he should be traded while his value was highest they said I was just a Bron Stan.

I swear y'all come to every one of my takes eventually. Now that y'all finally done with him his stock has dived and there's no one available to trade him for.

Nah breh, BI had hella stans in LWO and still does whereas Kuz was more 50/50. Some Laker fans (myself included) were critical of BI in the past because of his slower development but Kuz in comparison has been called Taller Jordan Clarkson and shytted on way more times than BI.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I don't know why they aren't managing his shoulder and keeping him out against Eastern Conference opponents. Games against the Raptors (at home) are essentially meaningless in the grand scheme of things, whereas games against the Suns (away) are the complete opposite.

 

[Lakerman0834]

Nah breh, BI had hella stans in LWO and still does whereas Kuz was more 50/50. Some Laker fans (myself included) were critical of BI in the past because of his slower development but Kuz in comparison has been called Taller Jordan Clarkson and shytted on way more times than BI.

BI had the strongest fan base out of all the young kids here on the coli

 

[ALonelyDad]

 

[threattonature]

You're lying again, I said nothing at all about LWO saying Kuz > BI. You straight made that shyt up. I said LWO shytted on me for saying Kuz needed to be traded. I also said nothing about trading them for trash, I said they should be dangled for a good deal.

And I threw out a month later that Lonzo could be traded for Beverley AND a 1st AND get the extra cap space. Which would have made them a better team last year, more playoff ready, and still made the AD trade just as possible.

That all sounds good now but the key was Lakers need two things. Enough prospects/cap to be able to make the AD trade while also keeping max cap space open. Yes it's easy now to simply say those moves should've been made after seeing how everything played out. But Kuz at less than 2 million was a great asset to dangle in the AD trade or to keep as a super cheap price to help fill out the roster to try and attract free agents. It was a crazy delicate balancing act and throwing away Kuz for an expiring would've been crazy especially since we have no idea if anybody would've even offered up something like Beverly and a 1st. Last year's Clippers had Harris and Galinari already so wouldn't have had much use for Kuz.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Now we getting AD with just BI and picks

If you think Lonzo Ball was the reason the Pelicans gave up a top-10 NBA player you're a bigger idiot than you look.

BI and the #4 pick along with the other future picks were THE core of the deal with Lonzo and Hart as the filler. Not having Lonzo wouldn't kill the deal because in addition to Hart you can throw in Pat Beverly and ANOTHER 1st-round pick that you picked up in the Lonzo trade.

You're saying the Pelicans would pull the trigger with Lonzo in the deal but wouldn't pull on Pat Beverly and an extra 1st-rounder, even if that meant giving up their chance at BI and the other 4 picks?

Nah breh, BI had hella stans in LWO and still does whereas Kuz was more 50/50. Some Laker fans (myself included) were critical of BI in the past because of his slower development but Kuz in comparison has been called Taller Jordan Clarkson and shytted on way more times than BI.

I didn't say no one shytted on Kuz. I said that when I suggested that Kuz, KCP, and Lonzo were all best destined for trade bait, I had a LOT of fools saying we needed to see how they fit as if we hadn't already had 1-2 years to learn their game.

That all sounds good now but the key was Lakers need two things. Enough prospects/cap to be able to make the AD trade while also keeping max cap space open. Yes it's easy now to simply say those moves should've been made after seeing how everything played out. But Kuz at less than 2 million was a great asset to dangle in the AD trade or to keep as a super cheap price to help fill out the roster to try and attract free agents. It was a crazy delicate balancing act and throwing away Kuz for an expiring would've been crazy especially since we have no idea if anybody would've even offered up something like Beverly and a 1st. Last year's Clippers had Harris and Galinari already so wouldn't have had much use for Kuz.

You misread my post, I NEVER said to trade Kuz for an expiring. I never suggested any specific trade for Kuz at all, I just said the Lakers should mention he was available and see what they might get. The AD trade is a perfect example of something they could get.

Lonzo was the one I said could be traded for Beverly and a 1st-rounder, not Kuz. That would have given them more cap space/flexibility AND an excellent 3-and-D who could start on a championship team for very cheap AND an extra pick and/or Beverly himself to dangle in trades. And all you were giving up is Lonzo, not Kuz.

Would the Clippers have taken Lonzo? I doubt it. At that point we thought they were rebuilding and not reloading so I was just suggesting that Beverly was older than what they wanted, but I was mostly just teasing LWO about their outsized perception of Lonzo's value. If Lonzo was half as good as some of LWO was suggesting at that point then of course the Clippers (if they were rebuilding) would have bit on that shyt in a hot minute.

The main point was at that point in time, Pat Beverly (who would have taken the role Bradley has now) was clearly a better fit for the Lakers, clearly was more playoff ready than Lonzo, and also would have opened up more cap space for free agents. And getting a 1st-round pick in addition was just to maintain trade assets at the same time.

And regardless of hypothetical trade scenarios that no on could know the details of at the time, I was right that Pat Bev was a better fit in the roster than Lonzo, that Lonzo should be trade bait, that Kuz didn't fit on a championship roster and should be trade bait, that KCP should be traded, and that the picks should be traded. No one can quote shyt I said in the thread last year that hasn't looked accurate in retrospect, which is why it's clownish as fukk that I got banned SOLELY for saying Kuz and Lonzo should be traded and some posters felt threatened by my presence and didn't think this was a safe space anymore.

 

[Saint1]

AD better grab hold of his vagina and play tomorrow

Nah let him sit if it means he'll be good later. This is how the game is now.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

@Rhakim thats because we went through hell to get those prospects and lowkey were embracing the idea of building a team organically like everyone else. So of course there was reluctance since we were taking a potential gamble for what might only be a few championships as opposed to a potentially longer run with the chance of many more titles.

BI was drafted after Kobe retired, he even got Kobe’s old locker, so out of all the tank dogs we all knew he had the most big time potential even if he was coming along slowly. Plus his propensity to stay silent and work plus jumping in and scrappin for his teammates really made him a beloved player in the Lakers stanbase. I’ll always fukk with Ingram and I’m actively rooting for him to take the Pels and make that his team Zion or not.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

@Rhakim thats because we went through hell to get those prospects and lowkey were embracing the idea of building a team organically like everyone else. So of course there was reluctance since we were taking a potential gamble for what might only be a few championships as opposed to a potentially longer run with the chance of many more titles.

BI was drafted after Kobe retired, he even got Kobe’s old locker, so out of all the tank dogs we all knew he had the most big time potential even if he was coming along slowly. Plus his propensity to stay silent and work plus jumping in and scrappin for his teammates really made him a beloved player in the Lakers stanbase. I’ll always fukk with Ingram and I’m actively rooting for him to take the Pels and make that his team Zion or not.

I agree with everything you said, I was just trying to break y'all out of your delusions.

I always said that BI was an elite two-way talent who could be a star. I was hottest on him out of all the young guys too, and I was right on that one as well. This ain't about B.I., this is about how poorly Kuzma's skill set (iso and volume scoring without elite shooting or distribution and downright bad defense) fits on ANY version of a title team. He should be getting 19ppg for some hopeless mediocre city.