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malbaker86 said:
Been saying that about his aura...that shyt is gone. Him and AJ's aura are gone...and it's good for boxing so mafukkas can stop being shook and get in the ring with them
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Tbf AJ never tried hard or anyhow to appear intimidating. Wilder’s last few years were all about ego polishing and telling himself and us that he’s intimidating.

AJ was always going for a more laid back, graceful, media trained persona. Some boxing fans hated/hate him because he is too mellow and this appears fake to them. There might be some truth to that but it’s also the skewed logic of many boxing fans that they hate your guts as soon as they perceive your behavior normal. Many of them just hate “mainstream” fighters in general.

We can say though it’s a lot easier to come back from a loss when you didn’t build your whole persona on you being this super intimidator or what but you are just a laid back, media trained guy. Wilder made an awful lot of excuses after both Fury fights, AJ barely made any after losing to Ruiz.

It was also easier to come back for AJ because he started off well against Ruiz and he could legitimately said that he got overeager and one punch changed the trajectory of the whole fight. He kinda proved this being true on the rematch. As opposed to thar I don’t know what Wilder could do different. He’s not as versatile as AJ and Fury is better than Ruiz for starters. Also it wasn’t one punch this time, Fury’s been on his ass from round one, Wilder barely had a good moment, if you are generous with him he might have won the 2nd round and that’s it. He didn’t het overeager, it was not one mistake, he just got beaten down by a better fighter. Idk how he comes back from that. He probably doesn’t. His ego will not let him take a step aside and start to rebuild against someone not Fury though.
 
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reservoirdogs said:
Tbf AJ never tried hard or anyhow to appear intimidating. Wilder’s last few years were all about ego polishing and telling himself and us that he’s intimidating.

AJ was always going for a more laid back, graceful, media trained persona. Some boxing fans hated/hate him because he is too mellow and this appears fake to them. There might be some truth to that but it’s also the skewed logic of many boxing fans that they hate your guts as soon as they perceive your behavior normal. Many of them just hate “mainstream” fighters in general.

We can say though it’s a lot easier to come back from a loss when you didn’t build your whole persona on you being this super intimidator or what but you are just a laid back, media trained guy. Wilder made an awful lot of excuses after both Fury fights, AJ barely made any after losing to Ruiz.

It was also easier to come back for AJ because he started off well against Ruiz and he could legitimately said that he got overeager and one punch changed the trajectory of the whole fight. He kinda proved this being true on the rematch. As opposed to thar I don’t know what Wilder could do different. He’s not as versatile as AJ and Fury is better than Ruiz for starters. Also it wasn’t one punch this time, Fury’s been on his ass from round one, Wilder barely had a good moment, if you are generous with him he might have won the 2nd round and that’s it. He didn’t het overeager, it was not one mistake, he just got beaten down by a better fighter. Idk how he comes back from that. He probably doesn’t. His ego will not let him take a step aside and start to rebuild against someone not Fury though.
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This is true, AJ just came across as a nice guy, he was just being himself, his whole persona wasn't about saying it was impossible anybody could beat him or scaring anybody. His aura and vibe was of a sportsman, a dedicated sportsman who worked hard to excel athletically.

Wilder created a narrative that people were scared of him, he was invincible and would knockout everybody currently and throughout history. He had to create this false image of himself to build himself up, AJ was very realistic, he'd lost before and came back in amateur competition (so had Wilder but hardly ever spoke about losses, infact he said it was a lie 1 time when it's on record and on video). AJ had spoken about how he might lose in fights, just because he's realistic and knows at a high level it could happen. Some may say it's a weakness but I completely disagree, I think delusion is a weakness, you can be confident while also accepting reality and being realistic that it's possible to lose.

Also because AJ didn't make excuses it's easier for him to come back, he improved and varied his fight game and came back stronger and put on 1 of his best career performances vs Ruiz in the rematch. Wilder's own delusion hurts him, I'm not sure if he realizes that though, he seems highly insecure. For Wilder to be dominated and destructed in the way he was is deeply damaging. Can he come back? Sure, but the persona and self delusion has taken a hit, it's harder for him to spin his false narratives after getting destroyed like that and blaming his ring walk costume.
 
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This is true, AJ just came across as a nice guy, he was just being himself, his whole persona wasn't about saying it was impossible anybody could beat him or scaring anybody. His aura and vibe was of a sportsman, a dedicated sportsman who worked hard to excel athletically.

Wilder created a narrative that people were scared of him, he was invincible and would knockout everybody currently and throughout history. He had to create this false image of himself to build himself up, AJ was very realistic, he'd lost before and came back in amateur competition (so had Wilder but hardly ever spoke about losses, infact he said it was a lie 1 time when it's on record and on video). AJ had spoken about how he might lose in fights, just because he's realistic and knows at a high level it could happen. Some may say it's a weakness but I completely disagree, I think delusion is a weakness, you can be confident while also accepting reality and being realistic that it's possible to lose.

Also because AJ didn't make excuses it's easier for him to come back, he improved and varied his fight game and came back stronger and put on 1 of his best career performances vs Ruiz in the rematch. Wilder's own delusion hurts him, I'm not sure if he realizes that though, he seems highly insecure. For Wilder to be dominated and destructed in the way he was is deeply damaging. Can he come back? Sure, but the persona and self delusion has taken a hit, it's harder for him to spin his false narratives after getting destroyed like that and blaming his ring walk costume.
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Agree with most of this
 
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malbaker86 said:
Been saying that about his aura...that shyt is gone. Him and AJ's aura are gone...and it's good for boxing so mafukkas can stop being shook and get in the ring with them
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Who cares what's gone..until he continually gets his ass kicked, he's a huge problem. Not everyone is Tyson Fury..he likely HUMILATES Joshua and Whyte.
 
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