2/22 FOX/ESPN PPV | Wilder vs Fury II

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Ruiz came into the rematch close to 300 lbs with no gameplan and AJ never put a sustained attack on him. Stop this nonsense. Loses only don’t matter when you avenge them like Lennox did.
And what did he do the first fight then :mjlol:



You think Ruiz came in with a gameplan the first time? His gameplan was to outbox Joshua like he had done most big/tall stiffs... and he still got rocked.

Joshua just did some dumb shyt the first fight and blew his tank after he knocked down Ruiz then he got caught. Joshua came in weighing more thinking he was going to fight Miller, not short/fast/powerful Ruiz. Neither one really had a gameplan for each other and that's normal when you take last minute fights, but Ruiz been fighting his style against big/tall guys.


Point is, AJ could've won but lost, took it like a man and came back dominant... Thats why no one gives a fukk about that loss anymore... I know you're upset because the guy you picked without any real logic and without anything other than a right hand lost tonight, but this is not the same as AJ's loss to Ruiz. Wilder will not come back from this...

And AJ didn't avenge his loss??? He dominated him... No one even cares to see a 3rd fight
 

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In the same breath tho, ppl need to respect fury too, he put it on argually the most devastating puncher in boxing from the first bell, bullied wilder, i expected wilder to catch fury cold, complete opposite, agree though wilders heart kept him going he was battered

oh no doubt - I have all the respect in the world for Fury, dude came in and won that shyt like a champion. I just see a lot of people saying bun this bum that, Wilder let his people down, got exposed, etc. This dude was ready to give his life in the ring, and I think people need to respect that more
 

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Legs were gone for wilder.Breh was like
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I had a feeling going into the fight that they were going to try to get Wilder out of there. It just made so much sense.

Even though I felt Tyson won the first time, I think he understood that just outboxing Wilder for 12 rounds while avoiding knockout/knockdowns is extremely difficult to do. Hell he got knockdown twice with that strategy already. We gotta try something else.

Even though Tyson isn’t considered a power puncher, it didn’t matter. If a high level boxer goes into a fight committed to getting a guy out of there, they can do it.

I was skeptical until I heard Sugar Hill talk, as soon as I heard him talk I believed it because he seemed like a straight shooter that wasn't about no bullshyt. He also explained it, Tyson also explained it, from then I believed, knowing the weight confirmed it 100 percent to me, but soon as I heard Sugar Hill I believed in what he said.

Yeah, he won the first fight quite clearly but didn't get the decision so he wanted to take it out of the refs hands. It made sense, was it a risk, sure, but so was the other way. That's actually the best way to beat Wilder though, pressure him, that's the best strategy to beat him.

Yeah you make a good point there, Tyson isn't a power puncher, this performance and result doesn't change that, he doesn't have really have that Wilder power, or AJ but he's a very good boxer and as I've always said he can punch a bit, he punches hard enough where it can hurt and cause an effect, when he's weighing 19.7 stone or whatever he was that is gonna cause an effect with multiple shots.

The old adage is the boxer beats the puncher, it doesn't always work like that but in the build up by many it seemed to be completely ignored, I made Tyson a slight favourite in the fight, it was pretty much to me if Wilder could catch him enough I knew he could hurt him but Fury also could outbox him which he did, just it was an aggressive approach this time. This is the perfect fight that demonstrates casuals just don't understand boxing, and a lot of the dikkriding that goes on, Steve Kim was 1 of the few people talking sense, even though he ultimately picked Wilder, he picked up on a lot of real shyt in terms of the group think mentality and hype. Wilder was a hype job, I don't even mean that disrespectfully, but he was is a hype job, you have to judge him when he faces top level competition not guys he will destroy, this was his first truly elite fighter he's ever faced and got destroyed in a 1 sided domination and humiliation. A lot of fighters would have remained undefeated if they'd fought most of the opponents he had. People wondered why he wasn't a bigger star, because he has a lot of positive attributes, 1 of the key reasons is cause he avoided competition, his career path could have been much better and it would have prepared him better for a night like that, but he looked lost and clueless in there, no plan B at all.
 

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I had a feeling going into the fight that they were going to try to get Wilder out of there. It just made so much sense.

Even though I felt Tyson won the first time, I think he understood that just outboxing Wilder for 12 rounds while avoiding knockout/knockdowns is extremely difficult to do. Hell he got knockdown twice with that strategy already. We gotta try something else.

Even though Tyson isn’t considered a power puncher, it didn’t matter. If a high level boxer goes into a fight committed to getting a guy out of there, they can do it.
Yep. End of the day they are pros.....heavyweight at that.... and at that level accuracy is bad news.
 

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And what did he do the first fight then :mjlol:



You think Ruiz came in with a gameplan the first time? His gameplan was to outbox Joshua like he had done most big/tall stiffs... and he still got rocked.

Joshua just did some dumb shyt the first fight and blew his tank after he knocked down Ruiz then he got caught. Joshua came in weighing more thinking he was going to fight Miller, not short/fast/powerful Ruiz. Neither one really had a gameplan for each other and that's normal when you take last minute fights, but Ruiz been fighting his style against big/tall guys.


Point is, AJ could've won but lost, took it like a man and came back dominant... Thats why no one gives a fukk about that loss anymore... I know you're upset because the guy you picked without any real logic and without anything other than a right hand lost tonight, but this is not the same as AJ's loss to Ruiz. Wilder will not come back from this...

And AJ didn't avenge his loss??? He dominated him... No one even cares to see a 3rd fight

:ufdup:Ruiz beats Wilder.
 

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They always do this and make excuses, delusion has been him and his teams downfall. This is a major issue, AJ fukked up vs Ruiz in the first fight and made serious real changes and didn't make excuses, if you don't accept reality you can't improve. Wilder's ego and delusion are out of control and detrimental to his own progression and improvement, I said to a close friend a few weeks ago he's a loss waiting to happen and a disaster waiting to happen, 1 of the key reasons I said that is his delusion, you can't improve if you always constantly make stupid ridiculous excuses, he's a pathological liar and that's not healthy.
 

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Just watched the fight.

Man that shyt was borderline uncomfortable to watch, Wilder was getting straight up bullied in there, I actually felt bad for him. Credit to Deontay though, I personally think the fight should have been stopped in the 5th, he was in a real bad way but carried on fighting until the stoppage.

As for Fury, once again he proves everyone wrong. Might not have been a second round KO but he done what he said he was gonna do. Even if you're a die hard Wilder stan you need to give that man his respect, brilliant performance.

Fury vs AJ will be huge.
 

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They always do this and make excuses, delusional has been them and their teams downfall. This is a major issue, AJ fukked up vs Ruiz and made serious real changes and didn't make excuses, if you don't accept reality you can't improve. Wilder's ego and delusion are out of control and detrimental to his own progression and improvement, I said to a close friend a few weeks ago he's a loss waiting to happen and a disaster waiting to happen, 1 of the key reasons I said that is his delusion, you can't improve if you always constantly make stupid ridiculous excuses, he's a pathological liar and that's not healthy.
The fact that he says his power erases all his mistakes in the pre-fight interview had me like :gucci:

So your reason as to why you don’t try to improve as a boxer is because your power bails you out:gucci:.

I could never get past that because eventually you’re going to run into a bigger guy that can punch and that can box, that’s gonna put you on your ass in example, this fight and Fury is not even as big as a puncher as Joshua....

Fury just cut out all that slick boxing shyt and focused more on attacking... on top of weighing between 270-300lbs and coming forward, putting all that weight and pressure on him and into his shots.
 
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