1990s NBA teams vs Current teams.

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Op talking about this killer interior player like brow don't exist

Read this earlier about 3s. Dope read

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2015/story/_/id/12993098/nba-35-year-war-3-pointer


Brow doesn't yet have a post game, he could get one in the future but..........I'm talking about the fabled 7 footer with a post game & jump hooks :wow:

Build a team around him with a scoring PG, 3 point shooting SG, slashing SF or 3 & D guy, a PF that can shoot the 3.....and let the big man feast.
 
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I've already said big men were better, and MJ is obviously the best player ever, but at the end of the day if you just look at how teams are constructed and how they play today, they are better. People are too caught up with nostalgia to really examine what's going on, and nobody has been able to explain how a team that makes 2 threes a game while playing at a faster pace, would be able to beat another team playing at a slower pace that makes 10+ a night.

I agree we're in a golden era which is why I made the thread, it gets old hearing people shyt on the current league because of their fond memories. It's no different then people acting like the 60s Celtics would have beaten the 90s Bulls.

People shyt on it because historically jump shooting teams with no low post presence has never won a chip. This will be the first chip with no real back to the basket player EVER...this era has been the worst era for big. So yeah we shooting threes cause we don't have reliable big men.

Those tears were constructed like that in the 90s bc of the influx of the best big man of any era....if you didn't have bigs on your team you didn't compete...

Imo...Reason Golden state is so good is bc they have the most complete team. They have bigs they have wing player and they got the best shooting backcourt ever...BUT we have seen what happens when Bogut is out completely different team..
 

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Brow doesn't yet have a post game, he could get one in the future but..........I'm talking about the fabled 7 footer with a post game & jump hooks :wow:

Build a team around him with a scoring PG, 3 point shooting SG, slashing SF or 3 & D guy, a PF that can shoot the 3.....and let the big man feast.
Like winter in game of thrones it's coming and when it does itll be like Sunday's episode :wow:
 

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This thread is basically just saying 3 point shooting >>>>>

:francis:.

You think players today are simply better shooters? I don't buy it their simply asked to concentrate on 3's more

Look at how many guys have come into the league recently who couldn't shoot in college then got to a nba team and whitin a few years are good at shooting the 3. A few years ago they never would be asked to do that it's philosophy not more skill

You honestly beleive if they asked the 90's players to concentrate on shooting 3's they couldn't be successful?


Even the guys who "couldn't shoot in college" today probably put up a few hundred thousand more threes in practice over the course of youth basketball than 90% of those 1990s players did.

The preparation difference between today's stars and 1990s stars is night and day. Today's 10-year-olds are being worked harder and getting better skills coaching than the 16-year-olds of the 1980s. Just look at shot form - in the 1990s even some of the "good" shooters had ugly-ass shots. Even some of the "good" ball-handlers could only go right. And for every kid seriously trying to make the NBA in the 1980s, there were 10 times as many 20 years later.

Effort wasn't nearly where it's at today - there was constant fast breaks and lazy defense most of most games until the 4th quarter, and teams settled for a lot of bad shots in the half-court.

Scheming was nothing. The triangle offense was "revolutionary". Defenses were basically man-to-man.

I'm a Blazer fan, so I always use the 1992 Blazers as an example. Won 57 games, #1 seed in the West, #2 record in the NBA, Clyde Drexler finished #2 in MVP voting, made the Finals.

* Their best player was a shooting guard with a broke-looking jump shot who looked at the ground when he dribbled.
* They had no inside scoring force.
* They only had three players who were even allowed to take 3pt shots, only ONE of those shot better than 34%, and the entire team combined shot 10-52 from three in a 6-game Finals.
* They weren't particularly good at defense.
* They won by running fast breaks all game, slashing to the basket, and making mid-range jump shots.

That's the team that took the Bulls to 6 games, and nearly won Game 6 in Chicago.

That was the NBA in the early 1990s...before they expanded to 30 teams and got even weaker.
 

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People shyt on it because historically jump shooting teams with no low post presence has never won a chip. This will be the first chip with no real back to the basket player EVER...this era has been the worst era for big. So yeah we shooting threes cause we don't have reliable big men.

Those tears were constructed like that in the 90s bc of the influx of the best big man of any era....if you didn't have bigs on your team you didn't compete...

Imo...Reason Golden state is so good is bc they have the most complete team. They have bigs they have wing player and they got the best shooting backcourt ever...BUT we have seen what happens when Bogut is out completely different team..


Nah, the Heat and Mavs were jump shooting teams without bigs that could score on the block.


And the all those 3s are only going to help create space for the next great big man when one finally arrives, when they build a team around him it's going to be lights out for the league because you'll get high quality close buckets, and still have the outside shooting.
 

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Like winter in game of thrones it's coming and when it does itll be like Sunday's episode :wow:


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There will be no answers for it when it happens.
 

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John Starks & Dale Ellis as the second best players on 55 and 60 win teams :francis:

That Sonics team wouldn't be able to advance int he current NBA playoffs, they'd get rained on by 3s while Kemp struggles to score in a packed paint.
I have no dog in this fight but Paul Millsap wack ass just lead the Hawks to 60 wins lol
 

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I have no dog in this fight but Paul Millsap wack ass just lead the Hawks to 60 wins lol



Millsap is a floor spacer, in 1991 the 10th most prolific 3 point shooter in the league made 89, Millsap made 77 this year as a PF :dead:

And you have a dog in the fight, whatever side I choose you pick the opposite :mjpls:
 

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I'm curious about just how clouded by nostalgia some of you are, I see people constantly saying the league was better way back when. I'll be the first to admit the big men were better, however some of you are completely oblivious to what is happening in the league and how things are evolving to the point a lot of those 90s teams as they were constructed would get washed today.


Case in point, I see so many of you pointing to the Hawks as a means of putting down the league, saying they won 60 games therefore the league must be bad. However in the 92-93 & 93-94 seasons, these rosters won -

60 wins
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55 wins
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63 wins
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I know your rebuttal will be that Patrick, Payton & D-Rob were HOFers and that is correct, however these teams would get completely and utterly washed in a series by the Hawks, Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Clippers, Cavs and so on. You know why? Because they made 193, 242 and 249 threes on the entire season. For comparisons sake, the worst 3 point shooting team in the league this year hit 406 and everyone says they can't shoot :dead:. Teams would handle the Knicks, Sonics & Spurs just like they do the Grizz, shrink the floor, give up 2s and beat them with 3s on the other end, and the Grizz may as well be the Warriors with the shooting compared to these 90s teams. Against the 90s Jazz, Knicks, Cavs, Suns, Hornets, etc teams today would just pack the paint and dare them to win games from outside because they straight up and down couldn't do it. Even the mighty 91-93 Bulls..their highest total during that 3 year stretch was 244.



There has been a shift in the league, and alot of those 90s teams you all praise so much would not last long in the current NBA. I won't really address the seasons from 94-97, mainly because they had the short 3 point line and you started to see teams firing them shyts up with no regard. That said, you cannot beat the teams in the NBA today without ample 3 point shooting because they are all good at taking advantage of the zone principles thanks to Tom Thibodeau, they want you to take long 2s, they want you to dribble in and take that mid-range jumper rather than shooting the corner 3. You might say "Pat/D-Rob gonna go for 50!" yeah on 20-41 while his teammates would get 30, while opposing teams today hoist up 35 threes making 12 of them.

"But Malta, you the low post fan!"

Yes, and eventually this new style of play is going to lead to a devastating post player with a team built around him that can shoot. You could catch glimpses of how hard it is to stop with the 94-95 Rockets and Magic to a lesser extent, they were the first step in the evolutionary ladder that has brought on this style of play. Once the Rockets got rid of Thorpe and gave Horry the start at PF, they almost always had 4 floor spacers out there with Hakeem. I welcome all these 3s with open arms because I know that the evolution of the game will then call for someone who can get you 2 when you need it, and what better way to build a 3 point shooting team than with a big you can run offense through who will be going 1 on 1 with his defender because his 4 teammates are waiting for that open 3.


Basically watching yall constantly overrate the 90s is disgusting, you can't even give me a realistic argument how some of these teams would overcome the massive shooting disadvantage. No team that's making 3-4 threes a game is beating one that makes 10-12, period. You can talk about handchecking and how tough they were, but from a team standpoint the vast majority of squads today are straight up humiliating those from the 90s. @Jplaya2023 please help me understand how your vaunted 90s teams would beat teams today, how would they get them out of the faux zone which is built around the purpose of limiting points in the paint, giving up long 2s and limiting corner 3s..which they didn't even shoot :dead:

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Brow doesn't yet have a post game, he could get one in the future but..........I'm talking about the fabled 7 footer with a post game & jump hooks :wow:

Build a team around him with a scoring PG, 3 point shooting SG, slashing SF or 3 & D guy, a PF that can shoot the 3.....and let the big man feast.

@Malta

what's ur dream lineup with focus on the 3 ball?

It's easy - take the current Golden State Warriors and replace Bogut with The Brow. :whoo:

There - you're done. :ohhh:
 
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