12/28 PBC on SHO: Gervonta Davis vs Yuriorkis Gamboa / Jean Pascal vs Badou Jack

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Yuzo

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If we keeping it a buck Gamboa beats him if he didn’t hurt his foot. Tank was basically a sitting duck 9-12.

Either in the first or early in the second he hit tank with some vintage Gamboa shots and speed.

On another note why was Gamboa so mad during the fight:heh:. Everytime the ref touched him he was swiping away his hand lol..he didn’t even want to let his trainer wipe off his face. After he hurt his foot he did want to quit but can you blame him because at that point he was a sitting duck against a power puncher and that basically guaranteed he was going to get beat down.
But he showed heart tho
i think i gave gamboa three rounds. thats not too bad for a 38 year old with one foot.
 

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Davis gonna be dangerous against anyone at 135 in the first 4-5 rounds. If he doesn't deliver a stoppage or doesn't sap his opponent's energy with something big in those early rounds I see better conditioned top guys taking him apart down the line.
He isn't.
He doens't have power at 135. If he did he would have knocked out Gamboa, who has a terrible chin.
No one is scared of Davis, because he is undisciplined, inactive, has poor ring IQ and and thinks he is still a power puncher.

The weight jump is funny in how it can kill power, Loma is seeing that himself.
 

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That's loma's speciality unfortunately. He wears guys down the line
I fukk w Loma more at this point so not unfortunately to me :pachaha: but I agree

Now Davis vs Lopez would be interesting :jbhmm:
Someone earlier in this thread used the "fast-twitch guy" marker. They are both examples of that imo, have a pretty similar style, think about it...
Very athletic, powerful, relying on aggressive countering, fast, looping shots from below, never fighting a full round but rather fight staggered, hanging on the edge of the perimeter, just outside punching range, then suddenly jumping in with something big, then the same routine again. Pascal, Haye and some others have/had the same style, some call them ambush fighters.
The disadvantages of it are low activity level and that usually their precision and dynamism (power) are falling behind as the fight progresses, the athletic flurries becoming increasingly sloppy and predictable and they start to gas.

Lopez seems to be better conditioned though, he never had problems with his weight, not that I can recall at least. Also, he is more of a natural 135er imo, after he destroyed Commey I gotta favor Lopez in that.
 

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He isn't.
He doens't have power at 135. If he did he would have knocked out Gamboa, who has a terrible chin.
No one is scared of Davis, because he is undisciplined, inactive, has poor ring IQ and and thinks he is still a power puncher.

The weight jump is funny in how it can kill power, Loma is seeing that himself.
He hurt Gamboa in the early rounds so I wouldn't say he doesn't have power at 135, he's a sloppy finisher though and he runs out of gas, gets sloppy as the fight progresses. Also as I wrote in my previous post he doesn't fight full rounds but staggered which can be bad against a guy with high volume, you can't take off minutes from a round against anyone.

Styles make fights, Loma struggled a bit with tall, rangy guys with classical, orthodox skills who could box on the backfoot and keep him at bay, as good as he is, he is vulnerable to that cause he is a short guy with an even shorter reach, he has to make his way inside somehow.
Now, I think against the style of Tank and Lopez he gonna dazzle and look as impressive as ever. Davis and Lopez are stocks guys themselves, Loma gonna outwork them and befuddle them imo.
 

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If you think of our bodies as cars a fast twitch guy goes from 0-60 quicker than someone w the scales balanced in the slow twitch favor. But there is a bigger cost in regards of gas.

A good example of anslow twitch fighter is Margarito gets stronger as the fight goes on and does more accumulative damage kos.

Edit info like this is why s & c coaches are important in today's game. You get workouts customized to your body type to benefit you in the places your genetics dont. I still remember the days nikkas were :hhh: in regards of using weights in boxing training.
 
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He hurt Gamboa in the early rounds so I wouldn't say he doesn't have power at 135, he's a sloppy finisher though and he runs out of gas, gets sloppy as the fight progresses. Also as I wrote in my previous post he doesn't fight full rounds but staggered which can be bad against a guy with high volume, you can't take off minutes from a round against anyone.

Styles make fights, Loma struggled a bit with tall, rangy guys with classical, orthodox skills who could box on the backfoot and keep him at bay, as good as he is, he is vulnerable to that cause he is a short guy with an even shorter reach, he has to make his way inside somehow.
Now, I think against the style of Tank and Lopez he gonna dazzle and look as impressive as ever. Davis and Lopez are stocks guys themselves, Loma gonna outwork them and befuddle them imo.
I don't think you understand how poor Gamboa's jaw is. If you land clean on him he should be heavily dazed .
IF you land power shots on him repeatedly and he eats them you simply don't have power at 135 and its as simple as that.
Loma has struggled, but Loma can adapt. Tank has shown he doesn't adapt and he doesn't have discipline.

There are personal issues that are the red flags with Tank and he hasn't show n any maturity and he is just a lackluster champion and talent now. IMHO
 

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If you think of our bodies as cars a fast twitch guy goes from 0-60 quicker than someone w the scales balanced in the slow twitch favor. But there is a bigger cost in regards of gas.

A good example of anslow twitch fighter is Margarito gets stronger as the fight goes on and does more accumulative damage kos.

Edit info like this is why s & c coaches are important in today's game. You get workouts customized to your body type to benefit you in the places your genetics dont. I still remember the days nikkas were :hhh: in regards of using weights in boxing training.
shyt Joe Joyce shredded as hell, massive but can go for days. :gucci:
Some guys I don't get:gucci:
 

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shyt Joe Joyce shredded as hell, massive but can go for days. :gucci:
Some guys I don't get:gucci:


Genetics breh :manny: how a guy looks on the outside dont got shyt to do w his muscle type or where his muscle insertions are in regards to how they connected to the bone(thats where power comes from).
 

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Sitting duck? Nah..tired. He better focus up...that's a game of life and death.

Tired and sitting duck damn near the same thing in boxing. He a little dude the dudes he going to go against going today to still be banging...
 

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I don't think you understand how poor Gamboa's jaw is. If you land clean on him he should be heavily dazed .
IF you land power shots on him repeatedly and he eats them you simply don't have power at 135 and its as simple as that.
Loma has struggled, but Loma can adapt. Tank has shown he doesn't adapt and he doesn't have discipline.

There are personal issues that are the red flags with Tank and he hasn't show n any maturity and he is just a lackluster champion and talent now. IMHO

:gucci:I don't agree that Loma has struggled at 135, i think that's a reach. Sure, i agree it isn't his natural weight, and he doesn't have big knockout power, but he's had 2 ko's in his last 4 fights, both against big 135 fighters (Linares & Crolla.) He only moved up to lightweight in those 4 fights. He's either dominated or won by knockout in all his 4 fights at lightweight.
 

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Im seeing this fight as something else...If they think Gervonta is food then lets get these fights setup ASAP.
 

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:gucci:I don't agree that Loma has struggled at 135, i think that's a reach. Sure, i agree it isn't his natural weight, and he doesn't have big knockout power, but he's had 2 ko's in his last 4 fights, both against big 135 fighters (Linares & Crolla.) He only moved up to lightweight in those 4 fights. He's either dominated or won by knockout in all his 4 fights at lightweight.
Crolla is a joke though and Linares he was arguable losing until he caught a notoriously glass jaw fighter.
Loma would be better served going back down, but the money is calling him.
 

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Crolla is a joke though and Linares he was arguable losing until he caught a notoriously glass jaw fighter.
Loma would be better served going back down, but the money is calling him.
But you said he's struggled at 135?

He's fought 4 fights at 135, two ko's and dominated the other two fights?

I don't think 135 is his natural weight, but it's incorrect to say he's struggled there.
 
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