10 Wins aint what it used to be: Official 2016 New York Jets Offseason thread

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PFF using a throw when he was a True Freshman playing in a Power 5 conference as a strike against him.

It was one throw but Hackenberg was poor throughout his career and that is what PFF is primarily judging.


There also judging a pocket passer in a spread offense with an inept coach.

If we're gonna go by stats then all those big 12 qbs should get drafted so high since they put up video game numbers in that soft ass conference.

I don't like the kid myself but I'm not a gm who knows. I just don't like how the judging works with these sites . They'res so many variable in football especially for a Qb.

You obviously like Hackenberg, which is fine as far as it goes, but your defenses for him lack persuasiveness. Hackenberg is not the only pro style QB recruit to play in a spread system. Other pro style QBs have made the same transition and did so seamlessly from a throwing standpoint. The fact Hackenberg couldn't probably stems from the fact he has so many deficiencies, including weird accuracy and an inability to escape the rush. Those things things are actually traits which, for example, Cody Kessler--another pro style recruit--excels in. Kessler is deadly accurate and beats the rush with his pocket movement.
 

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It was one throw but Hackenberg was poor throughout his career and that is what PFF is primarily judging.




You obviously like Hackenberg, which is fine as far as it goes, but your defenses for him lack persuasiveness. Hackenberg is not the only pro style QB recruit to play in a spread system. Other pro style QBs have made the same transition and did so seamlessly from a throwing standpoint. The fact Hackenberg couldn't probably stems from the fact he has so many deficiencies, including general inaccuracy and an inability to create plays.

No i don't I'll say it right now I think he's a bust even for the 2nd round

I just think more then any other qb I've seen in awhile in college he's played under bizarre circumstances which is probably why the Jets took a chance in him hoping it was the circumstances not him
 

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No i don't I'll say it right now I think he's a bust even for the 2nd round

I just think more then any other qb I've seen in awhile in college he's played under bizarre circumstances which is probably why the Jets took a chance in him hoping it was the circumstances not him

If the Jets took a QB everyone knows is going to bust, the FO can't scout QBs. And we should all be worried.
 

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PFF using a throw when he was a True Freshman playing in a Power 5 conference as a strike against him.
Because it debunks the narrative that Hackenberg was so much better as a freshman when in all actuality he was still making the same mistakes then as he was in his sophomore and junior year. He just had the benefit of having an elite wideout in Allen Robinson to bail him out on numerous occasions
 

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If the Jets took a QB everyone knows is going to bust, the FO can't scout QBs. And we should all be worried.

I like this front office so far but I would agree that face value this pick seems crazy and it is kinda scary if they can't evaluate the most important position in sports

But let's see what he ends up doing because that's all we can do at this point.
 

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fukk it, I want Hackenburg to pan out. As a Jets fan, I'm in on it. I want to believe that we're all wrong and Big Mac knows what he's doing. I want to believe. I need to believe. :to:
just ignore u guys even had a second round pick. its that bad
 

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fukk it, I want Hackenburg to pan out. As a Jets fan, I'm in on it. I want to believe that we're all wrong and Big Mac knows what he's doing. I want to believe. I need to believe. :to:
just ignore u guys even had a second round pick. its that bad
 

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Hard to be excited about this draft.

We are still trying to build the o line with late round picks instead of investing a 1st or 2nd.

I do like that we addressed the LB core though. Really like it in fact.

Maybe next year they will focus on o line. I hope.
 

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The worst part is that we're gonna suck next year. Probably be in a good position to draft a QB next year in a much better draft class. We're gonna pass up on Watson, Kaaya, and Kelly for Christian fukking Hackenberg :snoop:

I'm praying we don't suck that bad. Just suck enough for Leonard Fournette and I'll be happy
 
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