$1.6 billion reparations paid by U.S. government

[Matt504]

This is why you can't discuss nothin with nikkas.

At no time did I even state that the discussion for reparations were unwarranted.

I clearly made a note that the reparations were paid directly to the victims....

But your over-emotional dumb nikka azz immediately flipped into huey Newton mode and can't make a lick of sense with your own ideas.

you ignored his point about the Native Americans, care to speak on it?

 

[filial_piety]

you ignored his point about the Native Americans, care to speak on it?

I ignored his point about NA's because his dumb nikka azz was indirectly trying to force me into a discussion of defending "reparations" for NA's while being somehow against them for blacks.

I wouldn't entertain such a discussion.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

we need to let this go...it aint happening for us...

do something...build your own for you and yours

 

[JasonSJackson]

No it isnt.

How so?

They have made it clear how they feel about us, if we go out there and fight (like we would certainly have to do) for monetary redress and they happen to give it to us, in the end it's still an injustice for even making us have to do all of that to get what was due to us a LONNNNNNG time ago.

No different then someone that has done something VERY foul to you making you track them down, waste your time and resources explaining to them why they did you wrong and why they owe you. Only to have them finally RECOGNIZE the UNDENIABLE TRUTH in what you're saying then give you less then you know they owe you because they claim not to have the resources to fully pay you back.



This is what i mean by it is past that point.

 

[Blackout]

How so?

They have made it clear how they feel about us, if we go out there and fight (like we would certainly have to do) for monetary redress and they gave it to us in the end it's still an injustice for even making us do all of that to get what was due to us a LONNNNNNG time ago.

No different then someone that has done something VERY foul to you making you track them down, waste your time and resources explaining to you why they did you wrong and why they owe you. Only to have them finally see the right then give you less then you know they owe you because they claim not to have the resources to fully pay you back

This is what i mean by it is past that point.

No reason to stop trying though. We are apart of USA just like any white person out there.

Its hard to say that they don't have the resources when we are only 13% of the whole population.

 

[Matt504]

How so?

They have made it clear how they feel about us, if we go out there and fight (like we would certainly have to do) for monetary redress and they happen to give it to us, in the end it's still an injustice for even making us have to do all of that to get what was due to us a LONNNNNNG time ago.

No different then someone that has done something VERY foul to you making you track them down, waste your time and resources explaining to you why they did you wrong and why they owe you. Only to have them finally see the right then give you less then you know they owe you because they claim not to have the resources to fully pay you back.



This is what i mean by it is past that point.

Johnny Cochran didn't seem to think it was too late, and he was actually preparing to sue the United States of America, unfortunately he died before that could happen.

"Johnnie Cochran, the famed O.J. Simpson attorney, has said on national television that he is now going to focus on his Reparations For Slavery lawsuit against the United States of America.Johnnie Cochran has assembled a ' Reparations Dream Team' of high powered trial lawyers to help him in this lawsuit, and liberal federal judges have already cost taxpayers in cities like Kansas City, Missouri and Yonkers, New York of billions of dollars to pay for their nonsensical rulings. A liberal federal judge could cost us taxpayers trillions of dollars more if Johnnie Cochran wins his Reparations lawsuit"



"Lawyers planning suit for African-American slave reparations (11/04/00)**



(Associated Press) — "A powerful group of civil rights and class-action lawyers who have won billions of dollars in court is preparing a lawsuit seeking reparations for American blacks descended from slaves.

 

[JasonSJackson]

Johnny Cochran didn't seem to think it was too late, and he was actually preparing to sue the United States of America, unfortunately he died before that could happen.

what happended with this dream team when he passed on?

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

this is my take on this: if this is just going to be a bytching thread...then really whats the point? if theres not going to be any genuine ideas set forth about what we as a people can do to build something...do something...so we dont need their reparations? then whats the point?

what the jews....native americans...or japanese got or have gotten....what exactly does this have to do with us?

 

[filial_piety]

Johnny Cochran didn't seem to think it was too late, and he was actually preparing to sue the United States of America, unfortunately he died before that could happen.

The question remains...who exactly are they suing on behalf of?

 

[Jone2three45]

So... That means black folks still won't get that 4 acres & that mule huh?

Nope...and non blacks are happy with that.

 

[Matt504]

what happended with this dream team when he passed on?

In late 2000, a new project called the Reparations Assessment Group began making preparations for lawsuits. The dollar sums mentioned were staggering. Harper's magazine estimated that it could require $97 trillion to pay for the hours of uncompensated work done during the slavery era, which would require extracting, on average, about $300,000 from every American of non-slave descent. So confident were reparationists of success that they began to map out how the court-ordered funds would be spent.

The attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, broke this momentum with an abrupt jolt. It wasn't just that for quite a few months thereafter Americans of all races preferred to discuss issues unrelated to reparations; it was also that some of the persistent themes that ran through those days, such as national unity, individual heroism, mutual dependence and the implications of mortality were at cross-purposes with the reparations narrative. According to LexisNexis, U.S. newspapers and wire services ran nearly 2,600 stories including the words "slavery" and "reparations" in the year leading up to 9/11. Since then, the yearly average has been less than 1,000.

The question remains...who exactly are they suing on behalf of?

on behalf of the descendants of the slaves.

 

[-DMP-]

you guys should look into dr claude anderson and his law suit. its one of the few things on books that says we are owed something and it wasnt upheld.

http://www.eagleworldnews.com/2007/01/31/group-seeks-treaty-benefits-for-black-indians-and-freedmen/

Dr. Anderson said, “The Complaint is based upon treaties of 1865 and 1866 that were negotiated after the Civil War, between the United States government and slave-holding Indian tribes who had fought on the side of the Southern Confederacy during the Civil War.” The slave-owning tribes included the Creek Nation, Cherokees, Seminoles, Choctaw and the Chickasaw Nations. Before the Civil War, these tribes had treaties with the United States. However, when these Indian tribes repudiated allegiance to the United States and supported the rebelling states by joining the Southern Confederacy, they in effect violated the terms of all existing treaties with the United States and rendered them null and void. When the Civil War ended, Congress passed the 13th Amendment, which abolished slavery. The slave-holding Indian tribes claimed sovereign nation status, and refused to abolish slavery within their respective territories. Having just fought a war that ended slavery, the country could not allow Indian tribes within its borders to defy Congressional mandates and continue to hold slaves. The United States demanded that the Indian groups abide by the outcome of the War and free their Black slaves. In order to reconcile differences over slavery, the United States entered into a series of agreements with the affected tribes. The treaties of 1865 and 1866 resulted from those negotiations. The treaties abolished slavery and mandated allotments of land and other benefits for the Freedmen and Black Indians. Freedmen were the emancipated slaves previously owned by Native Indians. Black Indians were the offspring of Indians and Blacks, whether slave or free. The Harvest Institute Freedmen Federation’s lawsuit seeks enforcement of these treaties.

The Bureau of Indian Affairs in the U.S. Department of Interior is responsible for implementing the terms of treaties between Native American tribes, the United States government and Black Freedmen. Dr. Anderson said, “HIFF’s legal complaint asks the Department of Interior to acknowledge responsibility of the United States government to the descendants of Black Indians and Black Freedmen. It further seeks that the Department establish contemporary procedures to distribute the allotments of land and other benefits such as tax exempt status, free college educations, rights to own and build casinos, annual income allotments and medical, health and housing services to the descendants of Black Indians and Black Freedmen.”

-DMP-

 

[Milk N Cookies]

Nope...and non blacks are happy with that.

Yea you right about that, they glad reparation talk has died down for now. And if either were to be brought up, they gone throw Obama at us as a collective one. For both reparation & the 4 acres & mule for ALL black people dead or alive.

 

[Matt504]

this is my take on this: if this is just going to be a bytching thread...then really whats the point? if theres not going to be any genuine ideas set forth about what we as a people can do to build something...do something...so we dont need their reparations? then whats the point?

what the jews....native americans...or japanese got or have gotten....what exactly does this have to do with us?

we never got reparations and those groups did, that's what it has to do with us.



If this thread is going to be a bytching thread and you don't like bytching, then excuse yourself from it and "build something".

Many Black people to this day don't even know about the Japanese internment camps and the fact that they received reparations, this thread details that along with the fact that Black people, who were slaves since this countries inception received NOTHING, I think that's worth discussing, so do other posters in this thread.

If those groups deserved reparations and apologies, then we CERTAINLY deserve them too.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Keep in mind that the recepients of those reparations were paid directly to those who were victims of those atrocities.

Why introduce this?

40 acres and a mule was a promise by the U.S to newly emancipated blacks as a form of reparations. It was overturned by a South sympathizing Andrew Jackson. My mom grew up in the segregated south. Many men and women from that era are still alive today ---- especially their direct descendents. The distance between Japanese internment, and when the Japanese were given reparations, versus the Civil Rights Act of '64 to today, is only separated by roughly a decade.

Point is that America has had, and still has, plenty of opportunity to do whats right.