[07/14 - 08/12] NJPW G1 Climax 28 - Match Schedule Announced

[FRIED MASON]

 

[MightyHealthy]

BC OG looks like shyt this year.

Fale lost weight and moves better, but they make him look even weaker than Tama.

 

[MenacingMonk]

So Kaiju and wrestling are big in Japan? Hell, why not bring them together.

 

[MenacingMonk]

He's overrated. And that doesn't mean he's not a great wrestler, but he's probably not even top 5 in his own promotion (I'm counting an active Shibata as one of those five). That 6 star rating nonsense just gave American beards a narrative to run with, and it's not a coincidence that people only bring up those 6* ratings in favor of Omega. You never hear anyone use that to "verify" Okada's talent because everybody knows Okada doesn't need any false prop-ups.

I still rank Shibata's match against Okada higher than all of the Omega matches, and Okada's match against Naito at WK was just as good, but its legacy got deflated and forgotten because there is not a single person alive (outside of Gedo) who wanted to see that finish.

Again, nothing against Omega's talent because he could step into any other promotion and be the top man immediately, but this is NJPW where great workers meet extraordinary workers.

That’s your opinion. Only reason I brought up the 6 star match was because it was the first time seeing him, and Okada, wrestle. In fact, WK11 was my first NJ show. I watched it live, btw, so don’t think I jumped on the hype train after the fact.

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

I've been searching for this. IN for :misuz:going HAM on Kaiju

 

[Jmare007]

1+1 Okada

 

[TheGodling]

The same cant be said for everyone who you named is better than him

I dont know how you can follow this statement w he is overrated but this is all opinion anyway so do ya. I never mention any of the ***** +matches on here because I dont give a fukk same reason im not in TV ratings threads or care about what these nikkas make.

He aint overrated to me and deserves the praise he gets as do the other top guys in the company.

Yes, they would. Only exception would be WWE because it's hard to tell who can reach their potential in that currently toxic environment. And again, I have no fault with the man's abilities as a wrestler whatsoever, but for all his ability I also feel his matches as the top guy are also the most formulaic.

I totally agree with your angle here on pure wrestling. But when people (who are presumably Americans who grew up watching American wrestling) are ranking him in their top 5, I feel like they are taking into account promo work, and theatrics in the ring to go alongside the wrestling. Things that will bridge the gap for alot of people between WWE and Puro. I mean to rank Shibata above Kenny is simply personal preference for styles. If you like wrestlers that look like they are really shyt kicking out there, if you like wrestlers that are able to add some athletic high-flying to their arsenal.

Who are your top 5 in promotion then? Naito, Okada, Ibushi, Tanahashi, Shibata?

I think Omega is the most WWE-like wrestler in NJPW so I fully understand his popularity. But it's also a bit funny because he spams V-triggers like a certain hated someone spams Superman Punches and you don't hear anyone about it. Of course there's a big difference with the V-trigger looking like a genuine vicious move, but yeah, I hate spamming.

Well, I am a totally biased Sanada mark so he has long surpassed Tanahashi for me, but otherwise that's my top five, yes. Sanada still needs to find his true "it" factor that truly will push him to the next level (the way you can see an Ibushi or Naito go from 100 to 1000 at the drop of a dime) but he'll get there.

That’s your opinion. Only reason I brought up the 6 star match was because it was the first time seeing him, and Okada, wrestle. In fact, WK11 was my first NJ show. I watched it live, btw, so don’t think I jumped on the hype train after the fact.

I didn't mean it personally. breh. I wasn't even talking about this site specifically, but I see a lot of wrestling fans only use those insane Meltzer ratings to prop up Omega (who of course embraced it fully) and act ike he wasn't in those matches with a man who was and still is top tier.

 

[krackdagawd]

Yes, they would.

Only exception would be

WWE because it's hard to tell who can reach their potential in that currently toxic environment. And again, I have no fault with the man's abilities as a wrestler whatsoever, but for all his ability I also feel his matches as the top guy are also the most formulaic.

ok fam

I think Omega is the most WWE-like wrestler in NJPW so I fully understand his popularity. But it's also a bit funny because he spams V-triggers like a certain hated someone spams Superman Punches and you don't hear anyone about it. Of course there's a big difference with the V-trigger looking like a genuine vicious move, but yeah, I hate spamming.

Well, I am a totally biased Sanada mark so he has long surpassed Tanahashi for me, but otherwise that's my top five, yes. Sanada still needs to find his true "it" factor that truly will push him to the next level (the way you can see an Ibushi or Naito go from 100 to 1000 at the drop of a dime) but he'll get there.



I didn't mean it personally. breh. I wasn't even talking about this site specifically, but I see a lot of wrestling fans only use those insane Meltzer ratings to prop up Omega (who of course embraced it fully) and act ike he wasn't in those matches with a man who was and still is top tier.

I'm not taking it personally like I said this is all opinion talk anyway. He is very good to me it's hard to say whose the best in the era that we are in now but to me he is up there. With that said what I eat dn't make you shyt n vice versa

 

[julesocean]

I think Omega is the most WWE-like wrestler in NJPW so I fully understand his popularity. But it's also a bit funny because he spams V-triggers like a certain hated someone spams Superman Punches and you don't hear anyone about it. Of course there's a big difference with the V-trigger looking like a genuine vicious move, but yeah, I hate spamming.

Well, I am a totally biased Sanada mark so he has long surpassed Tanahashi for me, but otherwise that's my top five, yes. Sanada still needs to find his true "it" factor that truly will push him to the next level (the way you can see an Ibushi or Naito go from 100 to 1000 at the drop of a dime) but he'll get there.

Yeah when Kenny hits a V-trigger now it's nothing to get excited about at all. Looks cool but doesn't put his opponent in any danger of losing for me, because I know he's gonna hit 10 more later on. Agreed Sanada definitely has next when it comes to someone most likely breaking into that top tier of performers, he's gotten so good.

 

[julesocean]

I don't believe he's being punished either.

As someone that has been following the company one way or another - I mainly keep up with results these days, even for the G1 - for more than a decade, I've been dying to see fresh stuff for a long ass time now. Ibushi having a belt and defending it in New Japan would qualify as one to me, he could've gotten a run ever since he lost to Nakamura at WK 9. That's practically three years (not counting 2016 of course) were instead of using a guy that draws and is useful in many ways like Kota - good and fresh matchups, can elevate others if needed - they prefer to use him as a special attraction, and to me that's a mistake.

You mentioned Naito's last IC reign, that was preceded by a MiSu run that never felt like it truly started and a run by Tana that went for way too fukking long. There was no reason to not give a guy like Kota that belt and let him run with it, the dude sold out Osaka with the quickness as soon as a title match against Tana was booked, but nothing was made out of that.

What's frustrating about Gedo's booking, and that has driven me away from following the company like I once did, is that everything takes years to happen and when it finally does, it doesn't feel like the long wait was worth it, because the in-between time is just the same shyt over and over and over again. I've been told to "wait and enjoy the matches meanwhile" for 3 years with Naito, now I'm being told the same about Ibushi and Naito still hasn't gotten his run

I will agree with you on Naito, def thought he should have beat Okada at WK. It was most likely Gedo didn't want to end Okada's reign that soon though, not that he didn't think Naito would be good for business. So I never get too upset about it.

 

[Scottie Drippin]

1+1 Okada

Lil Kazu gone off them bars family.

Agree entirely with your Top 10 btw. Though I think Big Boss Sugi cracks it for me ahead of Nomura right now. Sugi is held back only by opponents right now. The MiSu stuff was flames. Very upset we got Maru in a G1 and not him. Imagine Sugi v Ishii

 

[krackdagawd]

sounding like dudes in here upset their guy ain't wearing the gold and Omega is

 

[Jmare007]

I will agree with you on Naito, def thought he should have beat Okada at WK. It was most likely Gedo didn't want to end Okada's reign that soon though, not that he didn't think Naito would be good for business. So I never get too upset about it.

by that point his reign had basically lasted two years and a half with a 70 day "vacation" (Naito's "reign"). I have no doubt that Gedo knows Naito is good for business, my problem comes with his "vision" for everyone not named Okada. It's tedious and repetitive instead of compelling, a lot of people - not saying you are one - give it a pass because they love the matches, after all these years I'm not one of them anymore.

Agree entirely with your Top 10 btw. Though I think Big Boss Sugi cracks it for me ahead of Nomura right now. Sugi is held back only by opponents right now. The MiSu stuff was flames. Very upset we got Maru in a G1 and not him. Imagine Sugi v Ishii

Haven't seen a Big Boss Sugi match in forever breh he's completely off my radar right now. Sugi vs anyone not in NOAH is a can't miss matchup, that dude brings the level of intensity and hate I love in my wrestling

Takuya is on the running for performer of the year for me, dude has a dope catalog of matches that can rival anyone else's this year.

sounding like dudes in here upset their guy ain't wearing the gold and Omega is

Not sure if this is aimed at me but I have no issue with Omega being champ right now

 

[stro]

When Kenny is particularly theatrical, he's way over the top even by WWE standards

 

[Silkk]

Edit: Nvmind, Kevin Kelly dont know wtf he talking about