Zion Williamson Bust Watch

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The problem with this is, players come into the league with some resemblance of a jumpshot and perimeter game, and they expand and fine-tune that; Zion came into the league with none of that shyt.....

So Zion is the only player in the league to come into the NBA without a jumpshot? So Blake griffin, brook lopez,amare, rondo jkidd came into league with a consistent jumper huh...
 
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My guy one dunk isn’t enough :mjlol:

He’s still a great once in a lifetime athlete just doesn’t have the same fluidity, coordination, explosion, vert, open floor speed we saw at Duke
Bro was literally crossing nikkas over going to the basket all game last night :mjlol:, he has the deadliest jab step explosion I have EVER seen :ohhh: and you usually don't count triple threat moves for dribbling, but Zion be having nikkas lost, he has been sending defenders flying the opposite way on some crossover type of shyt :banderas:
 

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This thread is starting to sound more and more like how folks were trying to defend the Wiggins criticisms in his early years. Not saying Zion is on that path by any means :whoa: ... but just saying the tone yall Zion fan boys take on in the face of real, constructive observations and critique is eerily similar to Wiggins' fanboys during his early years.
 
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My guy one dunk isn’t enough :mjlol:

He’s still a great once in a lifetime athlete just doesn’t have the same fluidity, coordination, explosion, vert, open floor speed we saw at Duke

imo he is playing this way to preserve his body and svg offense is a lot slower compared to gentry or coach k.
 

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This thread is starting to sound more and more like how folks were trying to defend the Wiggins criticisms in his early years. Not saying Zion is on that path by any means :whoa: ... but just saying the tone of yall Zion fan boys take on in the face of real, constructive observations and critique is eerily similar to Wiggins' fanboys during his early years.

I'll be the first to admit that he has a lot to work on. His help side defense has been pretty bad. That in and out is pretty predictable, sometimes he goes too fast for his own good and his handle with his off hand needs work. Does he need a jumper? Yeah of course and imo his jumper is there but teams aren't stopping him inside the paint atm.
 
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This thread is starting to sound more and more like how folks were trying to defend the Wiggins criticisms in his early years. Not saying Zion is on that path by any means :whoa: ... but just saying the tone yall Zion fan boys take on in the face of real, constructive observations and critique is eerily similar to Wiggins' fanboys during his early years.
Wiggins wish he was this nice this early stop it bro :mjlol:
 

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My guy one dunk isn’t enough :mjlol:

He’s still a great once in a lifetime athlete just doesn’t have the same fluidity, coordination, explosion, vert, open floor speed we saw at Duke

You were wrong. Take your L with grace man. It's pathetic at this point.
 

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I feel like he always had a nice midrange game
Nah his first two years he was mainly a guy who scored off catching it near the rim or garbage points. That midrange started to come in his 3rd year IIRC and then the three point shot started to come in Orlando and really became consistent this season and the last.

I mean Serge isn’t going to beat you off the dribble but he can put the ball on the floor in space, has a turnaround in the midrange that he can use in short shot clock situations and a nice jumper now.

I will always contend that shooting is something that most players can become good at (not necessarily elite) with enough work so I wouldn’t worry about that with Zion if he’s motivated. Dribbling the ball however is something that can take a very long time to develop if it wasn’t a natural skill. Derozan is a good example of that imo as it took him 8 or 9 years in the league to have a unpredictable and effective handle that he can rely on.
 

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Nah his first two years he was mainly a guy who scored off catching it near the rim or garbage points. That midrange started to come in his 3rd year IIRC and then the three point shot started to come in Orlando and really became consistent this season and the last.

I mean Serge isn’t going to beat you off the dribble but he can put the ball on the floor in space, has a turnaround in the midrange that he can use in short shot clock situations and a nice jumper now.

I will always contend that shooting is something that most players can become good at (not necessarily elite) with enough work so I wouldn’t worry about that with Zion if he’s motivated. Dribbling the ball however is something that can take a very long time to develop if it wasn’t a natural skill. Derozan is a good example of that imo as it took him 8 or 9 years in the league to have a unpredictable and effective handle that he can rely on.

Zion got an elite first step and was taking dudes off the dribble starting out from the perimeter during his last 31 pt game. Can he tighten up? Sure. But he is already elite in that aspect. How elite he becomes will be on how hard he trains and practices. But he naturally got all the skills needed to be an elite player..
 

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This thread is starting to sound more and more like how folks were trying to defend the Wiggins criticisms in his early years. Not saying Zion is on that path by any means :whoa: ... but just saying the tone yall Zion fan boys take on in the face of real, constructive observations and critique is eerily similar to Wiggins' fanboys during his early years.


Zion deserve a little more cred than Wiggins off of motor alone lol
 

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This thread is starting to sound more and more like how folks were trying to defend the Wiggins criticisms in his early years. Not saying Zion is on that path by any means :whoa: ... but just saying the tone yall Zion fan boys take on in the face of real, constructive observations and critique is eerily similar to Wiggins' fanboys during his early years.
Difference is Zion is good
 

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Nah his first two years he was mainly a guy who scored off catching it near the rim or garbage points. That midrange started to come in his 3rd year IIRC and then the three point shot started to come in Orlando and really became consistent this season and the last.

I mean Serge isn’t going to beat you off the dribble but he can put the ball on the floor in space, has a turnaround in the midrange that he can use in short shot clock situations and a nice jumper now.

I will always contend that shooting is something that most players can become good at (not necessarily elite) with enough work so I wouldn’t worry about that with Zion if he’s motivated. Dribbling the ball however is something that can take a very long time to develop if it wasn’t a natural skill. Derozan is a good example of that imo as it took him 8 or 9 years in the league to have a unpredictable and effective handle that he can rely on.
Bro, Zion is 285 pounds and a PF and literally had 3 dribble drives yesterday where he had defenders looking stupid WITH DRIBBLE MOVES. :heh:


Utep 2 step from 20 feet (thru the legs once, immediate crossover after) and the behind the back finisher dribble.

Is his handle didn't improve AT ALL, he will still be one of the best ball handling natural PF's EVER.
 
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