Zion Williamson Bust Watch

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nikka everyone on this forum knows he needs to lose weight
Not only does "everyone" not know needs to lose weight (I've argued with plenty of folks who stated otherwise), but what do you think will happen to the effectiveness of his style of play and how he'll need to adjust? Do you think he'll be just as dominant physically without that weight?

All y'all nikkas are still using square one-logic, instead of looking at the bigger picture.
 
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I'm not even going to respond to buddy. Every nikka that post in the sports section was saying he lose weight.

There was a big thread about this summer
You're not going to respond to me because my foot is on your neck. It was all good just a week ago when you made a thread title taking shots at me.

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All that wear and tear at his weight will catch up to him eventually if he doesn't cut down. It will be inevitable.
For starters, he's NOT going to last long in the league if he stays at 285lbs (I highly doubt his trainers/prep team will let him enter his rookie season at that weight), so he's not going to have that same size advantage at the next level, like he does now. Second of all, his strength/athleticism won't mean shyt if he doesn't have the height/wingspan to finish over longer, smarter and experienced defenders. Tweeners with strength/athleticism as their main attributes have limited ceilings in the league. His success will be predicated on him developing an outside game, because he's not going to dominate at the NBA level with his current style of play.
It's less "doom and gloom" and more being realistic. There's a reason why all big men in the league have been cutting down over recent years to keep in tune with the pace and space game. Of course, no body type is immune to injury, but all the actions that are frequent in today's game, and the injury risk they carry are compounded by the weight you carry, especially when knee injuries are more prevalent than ever, and that joint/ligaments bear the majority of your body's weight. Since "coli doctors" don't know what they're talking about, perhaps you'll find advice from NBA trainers/coaches more palatable:

"Mahinmi was given the all-clear to slim down in July, but started with lighter weights to take it easy on his knees. Losing weight also reduced the extra physical stress on his ligaments and joints when he ran, jumped, or landed.

“Someone like Nurkic—if he stays at a good weight, and he’s not fluctuating, he could add four, five years to his career,” Barto says. “He’s already had one injury,” he says, referring to the Blazers center’s broken right leg last March, “and the more weight you hold, the more you're banging your joints, and the more injury prone you're going to be.”

Players are now looking for ways to help them last—not just over the long haul of their career but over the course of a grueling 82-game season.
On Zion -

Finally, we touched base with an NBA assistant coach, who spoke off the record because he is not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

"If you're playing 82 games at that weight, running up and down the floor, that's bad for his joints and it'll take a toll on him. I think he's going to struggle with a lot of things. If it were me, I wouldn't play over 260-to-265 pounds if I was 6-foot-7. In today's game, with every team getting out in transition, with more possessions than ever before, it's concerning if a guy is carrying that much weight.""
The game is different today - more running/covering distance, more jumping and moving at weird angles, more stress on your joints/ligaments etc. Not to mention, Zion is a lot more reckless with his body than Chuck ever was.

And yes, Chuck did battle with multiple lower body injuries throughout his career - I mean shyt, his career ended because he ruptured a tendon in his knee.
And this is why I keep reiterating he's going to need an outside game.

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There's gonna be a lot of crow to serve up in this thread. Y'all nikkas better get your napkins ready.
 

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Now go pull up that weight Zion thread from the summer and pull just as many quotes

I'll wait

Stupid fukk
You still don't get it, do you?

I'll ask you again, you stupid fukk -
Not only does "everyone" not know needs to lose weight (I've argued with plenty of folks who stated otherwise), but what do you think will happen to the effectiveness of his style of play and how he'll need to adjust? Do you think he'll be just as dominant physically without that weight?

All y'all nikkas are still using square one-logic, instead of looking at the bigger picture
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You still don't get it, do you?

I'll ask you again, you stupid fukk -


Until you post quotes please stop quoting me. I'm not here for you autistic argument's

There's a 20 page thread of nikkas saying he needs to lose weight stop turning a blind eye to win a pointless argument
 
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Until you post quotes please stop quoting me. I'm not here for you autistic argument's

There's a 20 page thread of nikkas saying he needs to lose weight stop turning a blind eye to win a pointless argument
Why can't you answer the question? You keep going on about "everyone said he needs to lose weight" when that's not the point.

If he drops weight, do you think he's going to be just as dominant physically?
 
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Why can't you post them quotes from the thread?
:mjtf:

Do you have a learning disability or some shyt? This is why you can't see the bigger picture here, because you're about 10 steps behind.

Answer the cotdamn question - if you are of the belief Zion needs to drop weight, do you think he's going to be just as dominant physically?
 
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Dawg is still saying "he hasn't shown he can shoot" after taking damn near 20% of his shots from 3 :laff: as if 2.2 per game ain't enough to guage an ability.






If I drive to work 80% of the time but catch the bus 20%, that means I never shown that I catch the bus :dahell:?


Dude has been getting embarrassed for days :heh:, still literally walking away from every comment we have shut down.


@Gil Scott-Heroin is a special type of bytch nikka :yeshrug:
The closest thing you’ll get to him admitting he’s wrong is him going ghost for months on end until he gets a 2-3 game stretch that validates his ridiculous opinion
This is perhaps the worst analogy I've seen in some time.

@DetroitEWarren you know how you said math wasn't your thing? Well, perhaps, you need to stop using any sort of numbers altogether. You're completely incapable of contextualizing any sort of stats.

He can't shoot.

Now, seeing as though you're a dumbass who doesn't understand that concept, that doesn't mean he's physically incapable of shooting the ball, as if he's a quadriplegic who doesn't have gross motor skills; it means he doesn't have a reliable jumpshot. When you speak about players not being able to shoot, it doesn't mean they can't perform jumpshot actions by shooting the ball at/in the hoop, it means they don't have a jumpshot that they can rely on.

Seeing as though @Rigby. thinks it's a "ridiculous opinion" to say he doesn't have a jumpshot, wanna explain this:

73% of Zion's shots were at the rim last season
He only took 80 jumpshots in total (71 from behind the arc, and only 9 inside the arc);
Only 18% of his total shots were jumpshots - at a completion rate well below average D1 standard
He only took 38 NBA-standard 3s in total, most of which were uncontested, which he completed at 31%.
Only one made jumpshot out of nearly 50 total shots during preseason against NBA competition

23% of Ben Simmons' total shots were jumpshots last season, does that mean he can shoot?
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