Zion Williamson Bust Watch

[Shadow King]

But this thread was made off of one summer league game and people were calling him a bust..so why when he shows out during the preseason it cant be the opposite?

Because two wrongs don't make a right...

I said myself that nikkas was terrible for making a bust thread but I'm not gonna let a single preseason game against the Bulls tell me Zion is the next GOAT tier player either.

 

[010101]

If we are talking just strictly ability and not rings and shyt.....

If there is a gap between those tiers, it's small as shyt.

giannis is a baller but the gap between him & goat status is large

he is among the best of his era

but the tier i am talking about is super rare air

very few players that lock down that #1 spot & hold it for basically their whole career

z is nice but i don't think they are doing him any favors mythologizing him before he even gets one game into his career

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[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You erroneously tried to claim "Giannis has "far far greater physical capabilities" than him... wrong. Giannis is taller and longer.... he does not have anywhere near the "physical capabilities" in your words (your very words might I add) of Zion:

Oh, and @Inertia Creeps, since you're of the belief that Giannis "does not have anywhere near the physical capabilities of Zion", and since Giannis doesn't have a jumpshot, surely you must be of the opinion that at the very least, Zion will match his impact this season?



If Giannis can average 27 points on high efficiency, without a jumpshot, yet Zion has far greater physical capabilities, then he should have no problem averaging the same amount of points on the same efficiency.

 

[O.G.B]

Do Do?


Since you managed to misspell that twice, I know it wasn't by mistake, which I've come to expect from you - misspelling words and running to the thesaurus and using words that don't make grammatical sense to cover up whatever insecurity you have over your lack of intellect.

Not only are you a loser of epic proportions, you're also not too bright in general.

do do

1.(US, colloquial, usually childish) Excrement, feces, dung.

do do - Wiktionary


COLLOQUIALISM
Definition of Colloquialism
The word “colloquialism” comes from the Latin colloquium, which means a “conference” or “conversation.” As a literary device, colloquialism refers to the usage of informal or everyday language in literature. Colloquialisms are generally geographic in nature, in that a colloquial expression often belongs to a regional or local dialect. They can be words, phrases, or aphorisms (see below for examples). Native speakers of a language understand and use colloquialisms without realizing it, while non-native speakers may find colloquial expressions hard to translate. This is because many colloquialisms are not literal usages of words, but instead idiomatic or metaphorical sayings. Colloquialism is similar to slang, but the definition of colloquialism has some key differences

Maybe if you spent more time educating yourself and less time being a habitual troll, you wouldn't have wasted your time embarrassing yourself!

Oh, by the way, Joe Johnson is still in the league, where's K-Mart?

K-Mart retired with grace and dignity while washed up Joe Johnson is currently struggling for a roster spot with the Detroit Pistons against a PF who played for four different teams in three NBA seasons.

 

[DetroitEWarren]

But you see, the point is: folks acknowledge Giannis' limitations because he doesn't have a jumpshot. Now, what I'm trying to get you and others to understand is that, if someone of Giannis stature (where his dimensions and physical abilities allow him to do more things than Zion) is in need of a jumpshot, then why is it so hard for y'all to understand Zion does too?

Giannis will be in the HOF (as meaningless as that accolade is) without a jumpshot, but that doesn't mean Zion will be too.

This nonsense about teams needing to stop Zion from scoring in the paint before we should broach the issue of his jumpshot is reductive reasoning, not only in theory, but he's had one dominant [preseason] game against the worst defensive frontcourt in the league, yet failed to have the same type of impact against the Knicks. It's not like he's had 3-4 entire seasons, averaging 25-30+ points, where he's able to score only in the paint, in all types of settings and scenarios.

Also, curious to know why you think he has a jumper, when there's absolutely no evidence that even suggests so?

This nikka said he faild to have an impact in a summer league game where he scored 11 points in 9 minutes, saying that 9 minutes is more relevant than 2 full pre season games


This dude is a fukkin joke

 

[DetroitEWarren]

Mitchell Robinson blocking 2 shots in summer league is a full definition of Zions upcoming NBA struggles.

Not the 2 full pre season games vs 2 teams that were noth better than the Knicks D League team.


Yea, so shooting 34% from 3 is an indicator that he will never be a good shooter.

Look at the trash that is Anthony Davis, he made one 3 in college, if only he could do that in the NBA......... Oh wait????????

Damn, Karl Anthony Towns only made 2 in college, he has struggled to average 20pts so far in his career???????

Oh wait?????????

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Not only are you a loser of epic proportions, you're also not too bright in general.

do do

1.(US, colloquial, usually childish) Excrement, feces, dung.

do do - Wiktionary


COLLOQUIALISM
Definition of Colloquialism
The word “colloquialism” comes from the Latin colloquium, which means a “conference” or “conversation.” As a literary device, colloquialism refers to the usage of informal or everyday language in literature. Colloquialisms are generally geographic in nature, in that a colloquial expression often belongs to a regional or local dialect. They can be words, phrases, or aphorisms (see below for examples). Native speakers of a language understand and use colloquialisms without realizing it, while non-native speakers may find colloquial expressions hard to translate. This is because many colloquialisms are not literal usages of words, but instead idiomatic or metaphorical sayings. Colloquialism is similar to slang, but the definition of colloquialism has some key differences

Did you really just use a wiki-entry as evidence for the appropriate spelling of what you think that word is?

No dictionary or any credible place where linguistics is studied recognizes "do do" over the spelling of "doo-doo / doo doo". Your stupidity makes even more sense considering the places in which you use as references. It's no wonder you're constantly posting nonsense under the guise of trying to sound smarter than you actually are.

Not even Google recognizes "do do" over "doo-doo".

DOO-DOO | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary
doo-doo (noun) American English definition and synonyms | Macmillan Dictionary
Definition of DOO-DOO
Doo-doo definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary

Maybe if you spent more time educating yourself and less time being a habitual troll, you wouldn't have wasted your time embarrassing yourself!

Oh look, you lack all self-awareness too.

How are you going to accuse me of being a "habitual troll" when that is your entire gimmick - you literally ran in this thread to troll, and not having any actual discussion about the topic at hand, whilst deep in the red (or are you going to tell me all those negs aren't from you trolling?). You sure are a special type of dumbasss, I'll give you that.

K-Mart retired with grace and dignity while washed up Joe Johnson is currently struggling for a roster spot with the Detroit Pistons against a PF who played for four different teams in three NBA seasons.

K-Mart retired in 2016 because nobody wanted him; meanwhile, in 2016, Johnson was still hitting game-winners and being a productive role player. There's a reason why your idol LeBron wanted ISO Joe on his team and not K-Mart.

Now stay the fukk outta my alerts box.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This nonsense about teams needing to stop Zion from scoring in the paint before we should broach the issue of his jumpshot is reductive reasoning, not only in theory, but he's had one dominant [preseason] game against the worst defensive frontcourt in the league, yet failed to have the same type of impact against the Knicks. It's not like he's had 3-4 entire seasons, averaging 25-30+ points, where he's able to score only in the paint, in all types of settings and scenarios.

Also, curious to know why you think he has a jumper, when there's absolutely no evidence that even suggests so?

This nikka said he faild to have an impact in a summer league game where he scored 11 points in 9 minutes, saying that 9 minutes is more relevant than 2 full pre season games


This dude is a fukkin joke

How the fukk are you going to specifically quote what I said, and yet still get it wrong?

I never said he failed to have an impact - I said he failed to have the same type of impact. Or are you going to tell me he had the same impact in the Knicks game in comparison to the Bulls game?

And what the fukk does 11 points in nine minutes have to do with anything? In a vacuum, that doesn't prove anything either way. Stop acting like this generic, surface shyt you're throwing in your post box actually means anything. I'm not quite sure why you seem to think I'm stating or insinuating that game is "more relevant" either, when I've said nothing that suggests so, and in fact, I've actually stated that it doesn't in my previous post(s) in this thread.

The only joke is you: for taking what I said out of context, your complete lack of reading comprehension, and then accusing me of something I never even suggested.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Mitchell Robinson blocking 2 shots in summer league is a full definition of Zions upcoming NBA struggles.

Not the 2 full pre season games vs 2 teams that were noth better than the Knicks D League team.


Yea, so shooting 34% from 3 is an indicator that he will never be a good shooter.

Look at the trash that is Anthony Davis, he made one 3 in college, if only he could do that in the NBA......... Oh wait????????

Damn, Karl Anthony Towns only made 2 in college, he has struggled to average 20pts so far in his career???????

Oh wait?????????

My mans, I've already explained your faulty logic on this matter in our previous exchange. Go back and read it again if you're having trouble understanding why your argument doesn't make any sense, whatsoever. And again, who said that he'll never be a good shooter? Where exactly do you see me saying he'll never improve his shooting? I've said his effectiveness/success in the league will be reliant upon how he develops a jumpshot - I never said he will never be a good shooter - he just isn't one right now.

Edit: I literally just told you in our previous exchange:

"You don't know this because you haven't seen it - nobody has - simply because he doesn't have the ability to do so (yet). That could change in the future, but at this point in time, he doesn't have a jumpshot."

 

[DetroitEWarren]

How the fukk are you going to specifically quote what I said, and yet still get it wrong?

I never said he failed to have an impact - I said he failed to have the same type of impact. Or are you going to tell me he had the same impact in the Knicks game in comparison to the Bulls game?

And what the fukk does 11 points in nine minutes have to do with anything? In a vacuum, that doesn't prove anything either way. Stop acting like this generic, surface shyt you're throwing in your post box actually means anything. I'm not quite sure why you seem to think I'm stating or insinuating that game is "more relevant" either, when I've said nothing that suggests so, and in fact, I've actually stated that it doesn't in my previous post(s) in this thread.

The only joke is you: for taking what I said out of context, your complete lack of reading comprehension, and then accusing me of something I never even suggested.

He played 9 minutes cause a bumped knee

Nothing that happend in this game is relevent, it was literally a outdoor pick up game that he was subbed out of , how the fukk is these 9 minutes being talked about?


U are the only nikka in the whole world thinking about that game............. Cause ypu are a hoe ass nikka to players who threaten the popularity of the nikkas u dikk ride. THIS IS A FACT. NOT AN OPINIONATED OBSERVATION.

Im not lame enough to go thru yo post history. We all know u a bytch, and you being a bytch is coli standard. You are like the smart nikka in the LD class hiding your face in the hallway. Or the retarded ugly ass nikka that can hoop. Its some cool shyt about your posting but when you really breakdown a lot of the shyt you say, you spew a bunch oglf bullshyt and just keep talking. Id slap the shyt outta u bro.

 

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[Gil Scott-Heroin]

He played 9 minutes cause a bumped knee

And the point of you referencing this is what exactly? He still didn't replicate the same level of impact (prior to the "bumped knee") he had in the Bulls game. He attempted eight shots, three of which got blocked, and the only made shots were uncontested dunks. But again, I must reiterate, that game is just as inconsequential as what happened against the Bulls. Or do you seem to think his performance is going to be the norm for him against far greater defenses in a regular-season setting?

U are the only nikka in the whole world thinking about that game............. Cause ypu are a hoe ass nikka to players who threaten the popularity of the nikkas u dikk ride. THIS IS A FACT. NOT AN OPINIONATED OBSERVATION.

I think you'll realize that you inadvertently have that the other way around - it's not a fact, it's just your "opinionated observation". How the fukk does me simply stating what is basically basketball 101 mean that he's threatening the popularity of players I like? I think you'll find that you're talking to a mirror with this one.

I like Zion, and I like watching him play - who the fukk doesn't? But this ain't got shyt to do with what I like, this is about what acknowledging the limitations in his game and how they're going to affect him going forward.

You're being completely unreasonable, not even bothering to contextualize the situation, and blatantly lying multiple times, all because you're dikkriding Zion.

You even had the nerve to say that he's a better shooter now than Chuck was at any point of his career, when he hasn't even made a jumpshot against NBA competition as of yet.

I mean, do I need to say anymore?



p.s. you're not slapping the shyt outta anyone at 4'11", my nikka, I've got at least a whole foot on you.

 

[Redguard]

This thread is gonna be worse than the Julius Randle and Jabari Parker thread.

This is probably going to be worse than the Tom Brady thread.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This thread is gonna be worse than the Julius Randle and Jabari Parker thread.

If by worse you mean muh'fukkas typing out a whole bunch of nonsense, over and over, and not seeing the bigger picture, then yes, that is probably going to be the case.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@DetroitEWarren

Let's make this easy so that you stop posting nonsensical talking points that have no rhyme or reason to the argument at hand.

Do you have any evidence that counters this?

"73% of Zion's shots were at the rim last season
He only took 80 jumpshots in total (71 from behind the arc, and only 9 inside the arc)
Only 18% of his total shots were jumpshots - at a completion rate well below average D1 standard
He only took 38 NBA-standard 3s in total, most of which were uncontested, which he completed at 31%.

He's only taken four shots outside 5-ft in the three games he's played against NBA competition - all of which he missed.

How much more evidence do you need before you acknowledge that he can't shoot?"