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Toure said something on twitter, and i don't fx with Toure at all/ But he made a good point. No Fredrick Douglas in Lincoln, No Obama in Zero Dark Thirty. Basically we seeing the usual whitewashing of history. Zero Dark Thirty is gonna be about a bunch of cacs killing bin laden. Just like Lincoln is how a bunch of white super moralistic men ended slavery, even though they benefited from it and had Fredrick Douglas pushing them to do the right thing a la MLK and LBJ.


Looks good. but I feel a way. some reviews are making me not want to see it. saying the movie is how getting bin laden aint about speeches ( a clear shot at obama), but hard core, no frills hard work. (code for white working class).
 

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Toure said something on twitter, and i don't fx with Toure at all/ But he made a good point. No Fredrick Douglas in Lincoln, No Obama in Zero Dark Thirty. Basically we seeing the usual whitewashing of history. Zero Dark Thirty is gonna be about a bunch of cacs killing bin laden. Just like Lincoln is how a bunch of white super moralistic men ended slavery, even though they benefited from it and had Fredrick Douglas pushing them to do the right thing a la MLK and LBJ.


Looks good. but I feel a way. some reviews are making me not want to see it. saying the movie is how getting bin laden aint about speeches ( a clear shot at obama), but hard core, no frills hard work. (code for white working class).

Everyone knows that Obama pulled the trigger on it. I don't think Toure's argument makes any sense in this film's case. This is about the specific operation and manhunt. I don't think it was intentional.

We'll see.
 

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I think it's funny how you're not supposed to talk about missions, and these guys are some of the best our country has to offer. Yet they're making movies, writing books and helping make video games for cash. I guess serving your country just isn't enough.
 

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Toure said something on twitter, and i don't fx with Toure at all/ But he made a good point. No Fredrick Douglas in Lincoln, No Obama in Zero Dark Thirty. Basically we seeing the usual whitewashing of history. Zero Dark Thirty is gonna be about a bunch of cacs killing bin laden. Just like Lincoln is how a bunch of white super moralistic men ended slavery, even though they benefited from it and had Fredrick Douglas pushing them to do the right thing a la MLK and LBJ.

Isn't this just about the operation?

Were they supposed to cast somebody to play Obama and have scenes with him deciding whether or not to go head with the mission?
 

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I think it's funny how you're not supposed to talk about missions, and these guys are some of the best our country has to offer. Yet they're making movies, writing books and helping make video games for cash. I guess serving your country just isn't enough.
i feel a way about it. on one hand, they are heroes and deserve everything they get financially. but once they start becoming political, the mystique disappears for me. they supposed to be above that. but i may be wrong, if they aren't being paid enough then thats the governments job to fix that.
 

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Isn't this just about the operation?

Were they supposed to cast somebody to play Obama and have scenes with him deciding whether or not to go head with the mission?

put it this way, this film is saying, forget they hype. this is how it really happened. the "hype" is Obama when he became Prez, refocused the CIA with Leon Panetta, made Bin Laden their number one target, and got him.

this flm is saying, nah, a bunch of cacs were on him before Obama and they finished the job, Obama just getting the credit. now you can defend it as just them factually telling it, and that is logical.

but when you read history, and how black people are left out of the abolition of slavery story (apart from being slaves), and not part of the agents of our own freedom whether politically( fredrick douglas), or actually fighting in the civil war. till this day cacs with tell you the civil war wasn't about slavery.

or fighting for this country in world war 2.

or how black citizenship is constantly undermined, even by obama sorry to say, for the fetishizing of the good ol blue collar white no bs type of american. then it makes me feel a way.

just compare it to sports. the stereotype of the black athlete vs white athlete. the black stereotype is, loud, brash, money chasing/ the white stereotype is quite, hardworking, no nonsense. that fits into this zero dark thirty narrative. i can't tell u how many reviews i have seen that say stuff like . they went after the facts. its not about speeches. all that is code words breh.

how the heck you don't put the commander in chief, who is the highest ranking person in the country in terms of millitary operations, in a film about the most high profile military success in years. suspect.
 
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