Zelina Vega released!!

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But they aren't employees lol. You are asking for the confidentiality of an employee without actually designating the talent as an employee :mjlol:

yea he kept missing that part, all that legal, corporate bullshyt he was spitting goes out the window when you talking about a contractor.

and then they make you follow a 90 day no compete after they fire you. I can see if I quite but you let me go, why can’t I work for 90 days? I guess it’s a vacation but that shyt is fukked up.
 

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Key word here that you... aren't getting, apparently. Vince insists they aren't employees when it comes to the company benefiting them. But wants to treat them like they are when it comes to them benefiting the company.

So... basically your whole objection - whilst understandable - is inherently wrong because you're looking at it from a 'legal point of view and from common sense' of someone dealing with a business, and not a carny clusterfukk made up of handshake deals, promises made over drinks and literally operating for decades in the grey area of legality because no outsider wants to deal with the industry long enough to be able to properly attempt to regulate it. So, trying to apply either legality or rationality to anything cokeboy does is a waste of time, and in this case, actually makes you more incorrect than he is... legally.



Side note: I can pretty much guarantee that a part of why the E won't classify them as employees is because they'd open themselves up to a fukkton of wrongful termination suits in the future, when Vince feels like rolling Deavors Season around and cuts someone for gaining 10-15 over the holidays or because he woke up that moment and decided he didn't like the way they blinked and it would keep them from getting over. There's a lot of things the company gets away with because they claim independent contractors. And it's clear they're trying to scare people into compliance, and that definitely is going to hurt them, because the first person they toss in the bushes over some bullshyt like this who goes on to become something big, either in AEW or outside of wrestling altogether, it's gonna all but guarantee a reckoning in the locker room.

What really needs to happen is one of the chosen, protected few needs to actually stand up and be allies for the people in the locker room without their job security. Hell... Nia needs to make a call to Dwayne. She's been untouchable and might as well make herself useful - if they can get Rock either backing the idea of a union, or even bigger, being an integral part in forming it, shyt will change immediately. Rock's pretty much the only person outside of the wrestling circle that Vince ain't tryna have problems with.

And honestly... I'm of the opinion Rock is gonna make a play at politics in the next decade or so. I think the XFL purchase was an early step toward that to establish legitimacy. Him helping to unionize the WWE and effectively drag his old profession into this century would look amazing on that political resume. Someone in the family gotta make the call.
sorry to fukk up your whole post but you latched on to a minor semantics debate with "employees". Again, all we know about their contracts is what people like Meltzer are guessing and making up about "independent contractors". WWE has a legal team that knows this stuff. And i'll repeat what i said, if somebody worked at my company then jumped on a twitch stream talking about the innerworkings of my shyt AND they made money from that, something needs to happen. And i even showed yall an example with AJ literally doing just that. He was using his status/knowledge of WWE on a Twitch stream that was probably monetized, while he's currently employed by them. That's not something completely disconnected from WWE like Sasha being on Star Wars.

And please stop thinking WWE in 2020 is operating on handshakes and contracts written on notebook paper.
 

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But they aren't employees lol. You are asking for the confidentiality of an employee without actually designating the talent as an employee :mjlol:
yall keep latching on to semantics of "employee". LMAO
Do you think a person who's "independently contracted" to do catering on a movie set could go home and jump on a twitch stream and start dropping spoilers about that movie because "i'm not an employee of that movie studio"? And yall whole argument is fukked up because they are allowed to make money outside of WWE. Sasha just did it. nikkas think they know more than a legal team for a billion dollar company. If what yall was saying was so easy all this shyt would be 100% different. LMAO. Again yall thinking like neckbeard conspiracy theorists and not common sense.
 

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Side note: I can pretty much guarantee that a part of why the E won't classify them as employees is because they'd open themselves up to a fukkton of wrongful termination suits in the future, when Vince feels like rolling Deavors Season around and cuts someone for gaining 10-15 over the holidays or because he woke up that moment and decided he didn't like the way they blinked and it would keep them from getting over. There's a lot of things the company gets away with because they claim independent contractors. And it's clear they're trying to scare people into compliance, and that definitely is going to hurt them, because the first person they toss in the bushes over some bullshyt like this who goes on to become something big, either in AEW or outside of wrestling altogether, it's gonna all but guarantee a reckoning in the locker room.

What really needs to happen is one of the chosen, protected few needs to actually stand up and be allies for the people in the locker room without their job security. Hell... Nia needs to make a call to Dwayne. She's been untouchable and might as well make herself useful - if they can get Rock either backing the idea of a union, or even bigger, being an integral part in forming it, shyt will change immediately. Rock's pretty much the only person outside of the wrestling circle that Vince ain't tryna have problems with.

And honestly... I'm of the opinion Rock is gonna make a play at politics in the next decade or so. I think the XFL purchase was an early step toward that to establish legitimacy. Him helping to unionize the WWE and effectively drag his old profession into this century would look amazing on that political resume. Someone in the family gotta make the call.

I agree it will take someone at the Rock/Undertaker/Roman Reigns/Seth Rollins level to enact change
but most of the wrestlers at that level including the Rock are Republican/Conservative. In general those ppl that lean that way politically are pro business and anti-union.
Its no coincencedce outside of AJ most of the wrestlers impacted this new policy are ppl of color and younger talents. Those talents are more likely to explore new technology, outside ventures and thinking outside the box.
 

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Lol..they brought him on the main roster to be a professional sucker. A str8 chump:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Aleister Black reportedly has asked WWE to send him back to NXT | Wrestling News
The big news of the day is about Zelina Vega’s release from WWE.
As noted earlier, WWE announced her released just minutes after she tweeted, “I support unionization.”
Her real-life husband Aleister Black has reportedly asked to be sent back to NXT to work under Triple H but that request was denied. While not confirmed, the timing seems to indicate that this is related to the firing of his wife.
 

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People are about to see just how "open minded" wrestling promoters really are:mjlol: Other companies don't mind you having a twitch account or working other shows, but once you get to talking about a union that support dries up quick. Anyone who's followed the history of pro wrestling knows that 99% of the promoters are absolute scumbags.
We knew that in 97 when Bret Hart was screwed over and in 06 when Eddie was used to sell Rumble and WM.
 

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yall keep latching on to semantics of "employee". LMAO
Do you think a person who's "independently contracted" to do catering on a movie set could go home and jump on a twitch stream and start dropping spoilers about that movie because "i'm not an employee of that movie studio"? And yall whole argument is fukked up because they are allowed to make money outside of WWE. Sasha just did it. nikkas think they know more than a legal team for a billion dollar company. If what yall was saying was so easy all this shyt would be 100% different. LMAO. Again yall thinking like neckbeard conspiracy theorists and not common sense.
Actual independent contractors have way more leverage , lol yes a movie can say that they couldn't post spoilers but they couldn't dictate what platforms you use , you are being disingenuous , we all know that they just label them independent contractors to not pay benefits, corporations find loopholes to do questionable shyt all the time , lol at this bbuuut but their legal team said
 

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yall keep latching on to semantics of "employee". LMAO
Do you think a person who's "independently contracted" to do catering on a movie set could go home and jump on a twitch stream and start dropping spoilers about that movie because "i'm not an employee of that movie studio"? And yall whole argument is fukked up because they are allowed to make money outside of WWE. Sasha just did it. nikkas think they know more than a legal team for a billion dollar company. If what yall was saying was so easy all this shyt would be 100% different. LMAO. Again yall thinking like neckbeard conspiracy theorists and not common sense.
Treating someone like an independent contractor and telling them to act like an employee isn't arguing semantics :mjlol:. As for your question about the movie set spoilers did the independent contractor sign some sort of nda? If they didn't the movie company has no legal grounds. I have no doubt a lawyer for a billion dollar company knows more about finessing legally. Same as these prosecutors know how to finesse cops out of murdering motherfukkers. Your arguments weak as fukk lmao.
 

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Someone please show me receipts where they’re dropping spoilers on their Twitch streams etc..

Hell if anything Zelina used her twitch for storyline purposes once when she had Bianca come to her house and beat her ass and WWE didn't even mention it. Zelina was definitely a team player but she wasn't about to sell her life away to Vince.
 
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