I've had this SAME exact conversation with you before and the fact that you're repeating these same points shows I had no impact. I don't think I will this time either, but let this be for other people reading this exchange.
I don't remember who you are but if it was the conversation I'm thinking of then I destroyed y'all with receipts in that one too, receipts which you never replied to.
First, Yvette's influence is on YouTube, not Twitter, where she has 60k+ followers and her videos just on her channel alone have been viewed over 10 million times.
Those "10 million views" are mostly on old videos that don't have shyt to do with reparations. And they're mostly the same subscribers just watching each of her videos, so you're counting the same people 100x or more. Her three most watched videos, the only ones that even have 100,000 views, are about how much she doesn't like Jay Z's album, about how much she doesn't like Black Panther, and a video called "Donald Trump is So Right About How Poor Black People Are".
Looking at the last year most of her videos only have about 30,000 views and NONE of them in the last year has more than 60,000. If she's being amplified, who is doing the amplifying?
Meanwhile, there are multiple videos of Coates on youtube that have hundreds of thousands of views, and he doesn't even have a youtube presence himself, he's mostly appearing on traditional media that is getting hundreds of thousands or millions of viewers every time out. Or writing books that sell millions of copies.
Let me repeat that. His last two books have sold
millions of copies combined. And you're talking about someone whose youtube videos get 30,000 views.
This current reparations conversation has been amplified by Tariq Nasheed and others who have a much larger following than Yvette over social media.
So why does most of Tariq's "amplification" only get 100 or so shares? If Tariq's followers only share a comment a hundred times, is that really meaningful amplification? Sharing is the LEAST committed thing you can do to push an agenda, it's literally clicking a button. If only 100 people are even willing to share it, then how many actually do something in their life? 10?
The #ADOS petition to have H.R. 40 legislation now is stuck at 3,480 signatures. They're an online movement yet can't even get more people than that to sign a freaking online petition.
If you have a better example of big thing that #ADOS has done, which is directly tied to ADOS and not someone else's shyt they're trying to take stealth credit for, then I'd love to see it.
This network of black social media sparked the reparations conversation in 2019, not any of the people you mentioned. A bunch of inadvertent incidents from the Kamala Harris campaign after her presidential announcement got the ball rolling on all of this.
I'm still waiting for the receipts. You can't keep making unverified claims and expect me to believe you.
You are bringing up things that are years and multiple news cycles old trying to shoehorn them into 2019.
If the Coates article had any bearing on an election it would be in 2016. The article had little to any bearing on that election. In fact, the only reason the Yvette haters are even bringing up that clip of her is because as a Bernie supporter she was responding to Coates insistence that Bernie should be for reparations, yet in 2019 Bernie has been asked and pushed on reparations far more than he ever was in 2016 and that because of ados not Tanhesi.
You're just betraying a lack of understanding about how politics works. shyt doesn't move like you think. The 2016 race was supposed to be a Hilary coronation, then Bernie Sanders came in with his own pet issues that he'd spent
30 years pushing, but that finally were getting hearing mostly amplified by unresolved anger from an economic crash
8 years earlier as well as animosity towards Hilary Clinton that had been building since the
1990s. No one had any room to shoehorn reparations into the discussion because there was no meaningful negotiation of platform at all in that race - it was just Bernie coming out of nowhere with his long-cemented platform and Hillary trying to wish him away. Coates tried to insert reparations into the discussion but he had no leverage because the only two voices were Hillary and Bernie - Hillary wasn't about to move towards the left and Sanders wasn't about to change what he'd already been saying for 30 years.
That made the 2020 race the first one in which candidates' positions could actually be developed in response to the reparations question. THAT is why you're seeing it popping now. And the strength behind the conversation is still the ongoing conversation that Coates has driven. THAT is why damn near every article or commentary you see on the movement credits Coates with bringing it. You don't see Yvette's name mentioned
anywhere. You don't see any of her ideas or tags mentioned
anywhere, except in the occasional article that will mention some fringe group trying to work it's way into a debate that they're on the fringes of.
Hell, you know who the reporters were who finally got the Dem candidates to state a position on reparations? Astead Herndon (a Coates fan) and Jeff Stein (a White liberal).
If Yvette and #ADOS are really so powerful, if the candidates are really pandering to them, then why don't they even mention them? Why doesn't anyone else mention them? You can claim it's all some big conspiracy, and there isn't really anything I can say to dissuade you from that. Except it's really odd to claim that someone has so much positive power that they will be pandered to and yet so little power that no one will admit that's who they're pandering too. Seems unlikely.
Especially when only 30,000 people are watching each of her videos and only 100 people are sharing each of Tariq's tweets.
Answer this: Where were all the Atlantic monthly subscribers, white liberals and blm intersectionalists at the reparations hearing? Guess what, they weren't fukking there because they don't give a shyt, they don't drive the conversation. That Coates article was nothing more than a think piece to them. They took action by reading the article, that's it!
Breh, Coates HIMSELF was basically the star of the entire hearing.
I don't even get what you're trying to say. That there were no white liberals invested in that hearing? That none of the people at the hearing read the Atlantic or are involved with BLM? Where the hell do you get that from?
And I can give you HUNDREDS of examples of actions that were taken by people in response to
The Case for Reparations. You just ignore them.
You are bringing up The Atlantic and Black Lives Matter as if both aren't darlings of the liberal establishment, a liberal establishment which has been thoroughly criticized by ORDINARY black folks. The entities you mentioned are not stirring shyt but their lattes. The millions of people you mentioned don't matter cause they aren't doing shyt!
Wait, I can give examples of speeches, conferences, debates, panels, and so on, of The Atlantic giving The Case for Reparations on of the biggest promotional boosts it has ever given an article and of Black Lives Matter doing ground work across the country, and you claim they ain't doing shyt.....
in comparison with an online-only movement that struggles to get 100 of its followers to even share a tweet.