YouTube to blame for rise in flat Earth believers, says study

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Nah I'll leave the belief in cartoon drawings to y'all

Show me a real world real life example of this electronic gyroscope working in the same fashion as a mechanical one, then show me why a mechanical gyroscope hasn't been used to prove this rotation

In real life

I'll wait:yeshrug:
You can use a mechanical gyroscope to measure rotation if its large enough. Laser gyroscopes are far more accurate and smaller, which is why they are popular today.

Mechanical gyroscopes
For an observer at the surface of the Earth, the Coriolis force would be responsible of moving the gyroscope axis of rotation. It is well-known that this force is weak on small system, by which I mean it is easily overwhelmed by non-inertial forces such as friction, viscosity, etc. This is why Foucault pendulums have to be sizeable (the smallest I am aware of has a string about 5 meters long). Thus I reckon you would need a gyroscope way bigger than the mass-produced ones. I am not aware of any purpose-built gyroscope to test Coriolis forces. But why would anybody bother when it is so much easier to build a Foucault pendulum?

But it goes into what I said in my first post, you cant debate a flat earther because yall dont believe shyt, cant actually prove the earth is flat but dont care cause yall believe the burden of proof isnt on yall.


There really isnt any point in debating flat earthers because they just make claims about the earth being flat with no evidence, the burden lies on you to prove the earth isnt flat, which isnt possible cause they dont believe anything.
 

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You can use a mechanical gyroscope to measure rotation if its large enough. Laser gyroscopes are far more accurate and smaller, which is why they are popular today.

Mechanical gyroscopes
For an observer at the surface of the Earth, the Coriolis force would be responsible of moving the gyroscope axis of rotation. It is well-known that this force is weak on small system, by which I mean it is easily overwhelmed by non-inertial forces such as friction, viscosity, etc. This is why Foucault pendulums have to be sizeable (the smallest I am aware of has a string about 5 meters long). Thus I reckon you would need a gyroscope way bigger than the mass-produced ones. I am not aware of any purpose-built gyroscope to test Coriolis forces. But why would anybody bother when it is so much easier to build a Foucault pendulum?

But it goes into what I said in my first post, you cant debate a flat earther because yall dont believe shyt, cant actually prove the earth is flat but dont care cause yall believe the burden of proof isnt on yall.
By that EXACT SAME "coriolis effect", it's "scientific fact" that a person should be able to hover in a helicopter and have their destination on the ground rotate to them if they wait long enough. Have you observed this ever?

ALSO, by the EXACT SAME "coriolis effect" a westward flying plane flying ~500 mph at the equator SHOULD reach the exact opposite side of the earth in less than 17 hours, while an EASTWARD flying plane moving at 500mph at the equator going to the same spot SHOULD NEVER REACH IT'S DESTINATION, being that the earth supposedly rotates ~1000 mph east, which is a GREATER SPEED than the average plane can travel PERIOD

This is a fact due to the CORIOLIS EFFECT(a concept of heliocentric theory) that dictates that once an object leaves the ground on the earth, that object IS NOT TRAVELING AT THE SAME SPEED AS THE EARTH'S ROTATION, meaning that the earth's ROTATION has to be accounted for with respect to ANYTHING traveling in the air

Co·ri·o·lis ef·fect
Dictionary result for Coriolis effect
/ˌkôrēˈōləs iˌfekt/
noun
Physics
noun: Coriolis effect; noun: Coriolis force; plural noun: Coriolis forces
  1. an effect whereby a mass moving in a rotating system experiences a force (the Coriolis force ) acting perpendicular to the direction of motion and to the axis of rotation. On the earth, the effect tends to deflect moving objects to the right in the northern hemisphere and to the left in the southern and is important in the formation of cyclonic weather systems.


In physics, the Coriolis force is an inertial or fictitious force that seems to act on objects that are in motion within a frame of reference that rotates with respect to an inertial frame. In a reference frame with clockwise rotation, the force acts to the left of the motion of the object

This is what I mean when I say that y'all don't actually rationally think about the beliefs that y'all choose to give your energy to...

Also, I asked for a real life example of a mechanical gyroscope proving that the earth is a rotating spheroid and you just googled a definition and posted words:francis:
 

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ALSO (partially)due to the "coriolis effect", a person supposedly traveling either directly north or south from the equator should experience an EXTREMELY NOTICEABLE reduction in the rotation speed of the earth, since it's ~1000 mph at the equator and drops of EXPONENTIALLY the further you get from the equator

Has anyone ever observed or experienced this?
 

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You've never entered and/or experienced "outer space" breh
you said i ain't seen space.

i looked upwards last night and saw blackness and stars.

also, the earth is IN space. that's where the planet earth is, breh.

if the earth is flat, WHERE is it? something that isn't space, but is also LITERALLY space?

shut up, fukking idiot. go fukk your mother.
 

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This is what I mean when I say that y'all don't actually rationally think about the beliefs that y'all choose to give your energy to...

Also, I asked for a real life example of a mechanical gyroscope proving that the earth is a rotating spheroid and you just googled a definition and posted words

That's not a definition, it's an explanation on why they haven't built a mechanical gyroscope to test rotation when there are other methods that are more cost effective and accurate.

Flat earthers are the ones who created the experiment in the first place but that doesnt count cause it proved yall wrong. Now laser gyroscopes are a lie and inferior to mechanical since the results dont line up with your beliefs.

Why dont flat earthers build a huge ass mechanical gyroscope with the sole purpose of proving the earth is flat? Yall the ones making that claim.
 

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you said i ain't seen space.

i looked upwards last night and saw blackness and stars.

also, the earth is IN space. that's where the planet earth is, breh.

if the earth is flat, WHERE is it? something that isn't space, but is also LITERALLY space?

shut up, fukking idiot. go fukk your mother.
You haven't seen space

You've seen blackness in the sky broken up by the light from the celestial bodies

I can't help it if you BELIEVE what you're looking at is space, even though you could never prove it if you life depended on it

Once again, "outer space" is a concept of heliocentric theory that doesn't stand up to ANY scientific tests

For example, I encourage you to try and explain to me how thrust/propulsion works in a vacuum

But I'm guessing you're just gonna deflect and insult me again so I'll probably just ignore your next post
 

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you said i ain't seen space.

i looked upwards last night and saw blackness and stars.

also, the earth is IN space. that's where the planet earth is, breh.

if the earth is flat, WHERE is it? something that isn't space, but is also LITERALLY space?

shut up, fukking idiot. go fukk your mother.
It's a dome, or CGI, or a bunch of lights placed in the sky for the sole purpose of deceiving the population.

Flat earthers dont actually have to prove that, but they wont believe anything you can post to refute their claims. That's why the debate its pointless.
 

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That's not a definition, it's an explanation on why they haven't built a mechanical gyroscope to test rotation when there are other methods that are more cost effective and accurate.

Flat earthers are the ones who created the experiment in the first place but that doesnt count cause it proved yall wrong. Now laser gyroscopes are a lie and inferior to mechanical since the results dont line up with your beliefs.

Why dont flat earthers build a huge ass mechanical gyroscope with the sole purpose of proving the earth is flat? Yall the ones making that claim.
I never made that claim because I haven't seen anything ANYWHERE that would indicate to me what a laser gyroscope even is

I see people in here disingenuously attempting to attribute what other questionable "flat earthers" have done, to my arguments, even though my questions and arguments are clearly and concisely posted in here

Why are y'all talking around my posts?

Why did you cut out the part of my post about the coriolis effect before responding?

You don't think you're being disingenuous?

I'm asking how a laser gyroscope works in relation to a mechanical one(because I've never seen or even heard of a laser gyroscope until this very thread) and I'm getting the runaround smh

I'm showing how the coriolis effect disproves it's own position/argument/ideology and I'm getting the runaround smh

Literally my first response to you was that a gyroscope cannot prove a 3 dimensional rotating object and I still haven't been shown otherwise
 

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It's a dome, or CGI, or a bunch of lights placed in the sky for the sole purpose of deceiving the population.

Flat earthers dont actually have to prove that, but they wont believe anything you can post to refute their claims. That's why the debate its pointless.
Please post proof of the bold?
 

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With not a single real photo of "outer space", from in "outer space", on that entire page

Just CGI and drawings
Voyager_probes_with_the_outer_worlds.jpg


But again, I'm the gullible one:francis:
 

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I never made that claim because I haven't seen anything ANYWHERE that would indicate to me what a laser gyroscope even is

I see people in here disingenuously attempting to attribute what other questionable "flat earthers" have done, to my arguments, even though my questions and arguments are clearly and concisely posted in here

Why are y'all talking around me posts?

Why did you cut out the part of my post about the coriolis effect before responding?

You don't think you're being disingenuous?

I'm asking how a laser gyroscope works in relation to a mechanical one(because I've never seen or even heard of a laser gyroscope until this very thread) and I'm getting the runaround smh

I'm showing how the coriolis effect disproves it's own position/argument/ideology and I'm getting the runaround smh
I posted a link explaining exactly what a laser gyroscope is, how it works, and how it can be used to measure the earth's rotation.

You posted some bullshyt about having a helicopter hover in the sky completely motionless to prove the lack of rotation like that's proof. Has that ever been tried before? Would that even be possible considering that you cant get a helicopter to fly in a perfect straight line in the air, stay there completely motionless, and land, all in a perfect line?

Air travels with the earth's rotation so airplanes do not have to the earth's speed of 1000 mph. If you were on a bus, you can still run to the front of the bus even if its traveling at 50 mph.

That shyt you posted in response isnt even worth responding to.
 
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