You ever notice Indians that kinda look black?

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Indians are not descended from blacks anymore than any other type of Asian. Indians have different gene haplogroups to blacks and different general physiology. Their main similarity to blacks is their skin color, and that's only for some of them. The rest of their physiology is more similar to whites or other Asians than blacks.

As respects Indian's general outlook, in the Carribean blacks and Indians don't get along. In fact there is nowhere on Earth where blacks and Indians exist in large numbers that the two groups get along. This is simply the fact of the matter.

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You sound like a pseudo intellectual and you clearly don't know what your talking about.

Every single genetic marker or haplogroup in human beings on planet earth can be traced to a common African ancestor.

Every single gene that makes up the different races on this planet exists in black people somewhere in Africa. This is why black Africans have been shown to be the single most genetically diverse group of people on the planet. There are indigenous groups in parts of Africa who've never left the continent that have slanted eyes like east Asians. There are Africans with hook noses like Jews who have no Caucasian ancestry whatsoever. Literally every single physical trait that any particular group is defined by can be found in indigenous people in Africa who have never mixed with other races so what the fukk are you talking about?

Indians are descended from one of the first groups that left Africa so technically we're more black than some of you "new blacks"
We're one of the oldest groups of people on the planet.
 

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Yeah, let me get that Facebook. That video is relaxing but, not in the sense that I want to get sleepy, its relaxing in a way that it calms the mind, yet keeps you focused on the sounds being heard. Its not like its just some relaxing music that will put you to sleep after a while.

No, but from what I hear, its a system on how we should live but, its more of principles. I like the Vedic system because it actually has instructions for every part of your life. From how to eat, to the way music is made. Does the metu meter go in depth like that?
It talks about the vedas and everything you have mentioned. It's a 6 book series. It is not only principles but a way of life. The Metu Neter written by Ra un Nefer Amen is a series about the very same scripts, but it incorporates a lot more than just the original scripts. The Vedas and their system are referenced heavily throughout the 1st few chapters of the 1st book. The "black" Dravidians are spoken about and the black asiatics and many of their systems.

I actually met with Ra Un nefer Amen personally last Saturday.
 

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1. Untouchables are just dark Indians. So are South Indians.

2. There is a group called the Siddis which have black ancestors in India, whom were brought in by Indian, but this is a unique case in India's history and does not generalize to the rest of the people.

3. Dravidians are genetically no more black than whites are blacks.

Roddy wrong :heh:
 

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It talks about the vedas and everything you have mentioned. It's a 6 book series. It is not only principles but a way of life. The Metu Neter written by Ra un Nefer Amen is a series about the very same scripts, but it incorporates a lot more than just the original scripts. The Vedas and their system are referenced heavily throughout the 1st few chapters of the 1st book. The "black" Dravidians are spoken about and the black asiatics and many of their systems.

I actually met with Ra Un nefer Amen personally last Saturday.
Props! I'm gonna look at that.
 

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http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/06/dark-skinned-in-india/

Growing Up Dark-Skinned in a Color-Conscious India
June 19, 2014 by R. Nithya

On the outside, India might be a country of homogeneously brown people, but on the inside, people fall within a broad color range – from dark brown to almost white.

Unfortunately, this diversity in skin color has created a hierarchy of beauty – a hierarchy that tells you that the light-skinned people are the epitome of beauty, while the dark-skinned people fall at the bottom.

I was unaware of this until I was in the sixth grade when I found out that my dark skin could put me in a tough spot and stunt my self-esteem.

My light-skinned classmates ridiculed the color of my skin. One of them called me “black paint.”I pretended I didn’t hear him and walked away.

In the ninth grade, when I was at a friend’s house along with some other friends, one of them refused to drink coffee when offered and instead pointed at me and said, “I don’t want to drink coffee because I don’t want to look like her.”

I didn’t understand what it meant until another friend replied to him, “You don’t get dark by drinking coffee.”

And then as the conversation went back to coffee and the odd logic of 14-year-olds, I sat there quiet and embarrassed among my group of friends, wishing I were invisible or just some place else.

I hated going out in the sun. I hated going out at all.

I remember once my mother had asked me to get milk from the near-by milk booth, and while I was walking back home from there, I noticed two young men looking at me. One of them whistled and the other blurted “But she’s not pretty!”

At 15 years of age, a stranger calling me “not pretty” aloud was as new and shocking to me as being sexually harassed on the street for the first time.

I hated wearing white and black. I hated taking pictures in a room that wasn’t well-lit because I knew that while the faces of all my fair-skinned friends would show up in the picture, mine wouldn’t. And the idea of being embarrassed in front of your friends was life-threatening.

I was not just a dark-skinned child in the classroom, but an “other” since I belonged to the southern state of Tamil Nadu and not to the northern cities that I had lived in through the years.

To my North Indian classmates and acquaintances, a “stereotypical” Tamilian was something like this: a dark-skinned, Tamil-speaking person who eats only idlis and dosas, and who speaks English and Hindi with a heavy Tamil accent.

Luckily, I didn’t have a Tamil accent while speaking Hindi or English, so I was spared from any ridicule in that department.

Growing up in three cities where Hindi was spoken, I got used to Hindi. In a way, it became my first language, the language I am most comfortable in. English followed. But Tamil was nowhere in sight.

My skin color, the stereotyped Tamil culture, and people making fun of Tamil accents, pulled me away from anything Tamil. So much so that I could understand what my parents said to me in Tamil, but I couldn’t reply to them in the same language.

I didn’t know how to speak Tamil, and I didn’t want to. I didn’t want to celebrate any Tamil festival, or watch Tamil movies, or listen to Tamil songs. To feel good about myself, sometimes I looked down upon my parents when they expressed their Tamil identity.

During most of my teenage years, I put on a mask, trying to hide where I came from.

I told people I didn’t know anything about the culture I belonged to so that they could think I was just like them. At every chance I could, I tried withdrawing my affiliation with my culture.

Because I was brought up in places where I experienced the culture of my friends more than that of my parents, I felt the culture I saw around me was somehow cooler and better than the one I belonged to.

I now know that it wasn’t cooler or any better, but just different. I didn’t know it then.

Back then, I just wanted to be light-skinned so that I could be beautiful because the message was that anything that was not fair was plain ugly.

Yet at the same time, I wanted to be just as I was because I liked who I was, and also because I felt that the people making fun of dark-skinned people were doing something insensitive and hurtful, that they were wrong. And I didn’t want to change for the wrong people.

Back then, TV advertisements for fairness creams were about the dark-skinned girl failing to get the guy, get the job, and get the life of her dreams. The idea was to make you buy into that threatening future of never amounting to anything with the color that coats you, and then make you buy the magic cream that could give your life the right amount of pinkish/whitish glow it needs.

If anything has changed in the fairness cream industry since then, it is that today the advertisements are less about making you feel bad about what color you’re born in and more about fair-skinned girls aiming for empowerment and gender equality at the same time being a visual delight to onlookers.

As a teenager, I used to think, “When I get married, and when I watch TV with my husband, how humiliating would it be when there pops up an advertisement for fairness creams during a commercial break?” I dreaded that thought, that possibility of being humiliated in front of my husband by an advertisement.

If there was one good thing that TV brought into my drawing room during my growing up years, it was the Oprah Winfrey Show.

I watched the show every afternoon after I came back from school, and apart from the obvious things that one would learn by watching the show, I learned that if I had the right amount of confidence and personality, I could pull off a neon-colored top just like Oprah Winfrey.

If I had the right amount of self-esteem and power within me, then I no longer needed to avoid buying clothes in colors such as white, yellow, orange and black – the colors that people said would look too bright on me or too dull or too ugly. I realized that it was possible for me to wear whatever colors I liked.

I began working on my self-esteem. I cleared the space within me where once I had locked up pain. I kept writing about my dreams in my journal. I shut out the voices of the world and listened to Oprah and to myself, and finally I heard what I always knew – I am beautiful.

I taught myself confidence. I learned that not being ashamed is the first step towards complete confidence about one’s self, one’s bones and flesh.

So I became open about my feelings instead of keeping them inside. I told my friends when something hurt. I embraced having a voice.

In the last two years at school, I started doing things that I never did before, for fear of not being good-looking enough to be doing things. I started participating in school activities. I recited the school prayer and the pledge and read the news on the stage during the morning assembly. I started letting people see me.

I understood that where I come from is nothing to be ashamed of. It is part of who I am in the physical form. And to deny that part is to deny who I am, to deny my very existence.

I understood that being ashamed of how you look or where you belong to is being ashamed of your genes, being ashamed of your parents and their childhoods, their struggles and their existence. It took years of practicing self-esteem before my attitude towards my identity changed completely.

Today at 24 years of age, I am not ashamed. I don’t fear being seen.

Today I can reject a saleswoman’s attempts to sell me a new fairness product that promises to remove the “dark spots” (that’s what they call my skin color sometimes), or answer people where I come from without being ashamed.

I still struggle with confidence sometimes, but it’s the kind of struggle that has nothing to do with my background, or looks, or skin color. I don’t feel inferior to fair girls anymore. I am not conscious of my looks while talking to boys. I am no longer bitter towards those who hurt me in the past or those who robbed me of a healthy self-esteem during my teen years.

Today I am at peace with all that.

Surprisingly, my low self-esteem never hampered my dream of finding true love. Somehow I always believed there was a guy who was above the petty concepts of the world, a guy to whom I would not be an exception to the hollow definition of beauty, but to whom I will be an authentic part of beauty in its truest essence. Luckily, I did come across a guy like that once.

This color consciousness among Indians and the resultant ragging doesn’t attract much attention in India since it doesn’t qualify as racism. Also, Indian laws provide equal rights to everyone irrespective of race, color, caste, creed and sex. So, color consciousness is not part of the system or the institution.

It’s acceptable to make a dark-skinned person feel bad about his or her skin color because being light-skinned is what is preferred and damages to self-esteem don’t count.

India has not changed since I have grown up. It is still color-conscious. Its fairness cream industry is still booming. Strangers still sometimes poke fun or act plain nasty.

But now I know which comments to react to and which ones to tune out, for nothing can now change the way I see myself and the way I define beauty.

I now know that fair and dark are not two sides of a coin called beauty. Neither of them are standards of beauty because beauty in its essence has no standards.

The only thing ugly in the world are thoughts and actions that rob us or others of love, peace, and joy. Everything else is beautiful.
 

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I don't know any Indians personally:yeshrug: But, the ones I see gravitates to the CaC Man:leostare: and have a stink attitude:ehh: Majority of them are darker than US:mjpls: Yet, their on some other Self-Hating complex FUKKERY:scust: Born in their wrong Caste System:what: is the end of your chapter before it even starts:huhldup: Imagine generations of one family job is to clean shyt:damn: Always wondered if the ones from India:patrice: got along with our Trini, Guyanese, and West Indian brethrens, tho:lupe:
 
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You sound like a pseudo intellectual and you clearly don't know what your talking about.

Every single genetic marker or haplogroup in human beings on planet earth can be traced to a common African ancestor.

All haplogroups are variations of other haplogroups, but this does not imply that all human beings are black.


Every single gene that makes up the different races on this planet exists in black people somewhere in Africa.

This is actually not true. Blacks do not have all haplogroups. Blacks, for example, do not have Asian haplogroups. Our primary haplogroups are A, B, L and e1b1b. Asians have haplogroups like O3, C, etc.

This is why black Africans have been shown to be the single most genetically diverse group of people on the planet.

This statement is a misnomer. Africa is only the most genetically diverse group of people on the planet if you include other races whom exist in Africa like North Africans and to a certain extent the most Eastern Africans. The black Africans in Africa are not genetically diverse. There is not even a true genetic difference between neighbouring countries in West Africa, nevermind the differing tribes within that region's respective countries.


There are indigenous groups in parts of Africa who've never left the continent that have slanted eyes like east Asians.

There are whites whom have the same thing. This does not imply the same genes, only similar features.

There are Africans with hook noses like Jews who have no Caucasian ancestry whatsoever. Literally every single physical trait that any particular group is defined by can be found in indigenous people in Africa who have never mixed with other races so what the fukk are you talking about?

There are indeed blacks with straighter noses, but that is just natural variation. It does not mean imply blacks are Indians or vice versa. Similarly there are whites with flatter noses, that does not imply blacks are whites.

Indians are descended from one of the first groups that left Africa so technically we're more black than some of you "new blacks"
We're one of the oldest groups of people on the planet.

All peoples are descended from groups who left Africa. I have nothing against Indians and most I've met are cool people in and of themselves. But I do not see the utility in calling them black.
 
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I don't know any Indians personally:yeshrug: But, the ones I see gravitates to the CaC Man:leostare: and have a stink attitude:ehh: Majority of them are darker than US:mjpls: Yet, their on some other Self-Hating complex FUKKERY:scust: Born in their wrong Caste System:what: is the end of your chapter before it even starts:huhldup: Imagine generations of one family job is to clean shyt:damn: Always wondered if the ones from India:patrice: got along with our Trini, Guyanese, and West Indian brethrens, tho:lupe:

Assuming you are black you have major color complexes in your own community, so why criticize Indians for theirs? glass houses and all that.
 

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This statement is a misnomer. Africa is only the most genetically diverse group of people on the planet if you include other races whom exist in Africa like North Africans and to a certain extent the most Eastern Africans. The black Africans in Africa are not genetically diverse. There is not even a true genetic difference between neighbouring countries in West Africa, nevermind the differing tribes within that region's respective countries..

You are by far the dumbest person in this thread :dead:
 
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