"You Can Only Avoid The Truth For So Long" Brook v Spence SHOWTIME 5/27 Fight Thread

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Knicksman20

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Doesn't matter what he does in training bruh. I've seen just about all of his fights & he doesn't. He gets touched EVERY fight. He's fortunate Lartey was the only guy he fought with some semblance of any kind of power & he was lucky there.
 

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Doesn't matter what he does in training bruh. I've seen just about all of his fights & he doesn't. He gets touched EVERY fight. He's fortunate Lartey was the only guy he fought with some semblance of any kind of power & he was lucky there.

It's a known knock on Spence thought you'd like to hear what DJ had to say in response.

That fight was in 2013 and the only fight people reference as a time he got really hurt, and he took the shot.

It's boxing...who doesn't get touched. Is there really any fighter out there who doesn't get touched? If you're saying Spence gets hurt EVERY fight then it's an issue.

I just think it's a lil exaggerated being that most of Spence opponents he has pushed for the KO, perhaps even with the mindset that he can take a guys best shot and get his shyt off.

Sometimes you gotta take those risk and yeah sometimes you gonna get caught. Don't think he's the same fighter as he was in 2013.
 

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It's a known knock on Spence thought you'd like to hear what DJ had to say in response.

That fight was in 2013 and the only fight people reference as a time he got really hurt, and he took the shot.

It's boxing...who doesn't get touched. Is there really any fighter out there who doesn't get touched? If you're saying Spence gets hurt EVERY fight then it's an issue.

I just think it's a lil exaggerated being that most of Spence opponents he has pushed for the KO, perhaps even with the mindset that he can take a guys best shot and get his shyt off.

Sometimes you gotta take those risk and yeah sometimes you gonna get caught. Don't think he's the same fighter as he was in 2013.

I hear what you're saying but have you noticed since the Lartey fight he's fought fighters with nonexistent power? When I say he gets touched consistently I'm not talking about normal shots. He gets clipped by unnecessary shots every fight. If his opponents had power he'd be in trouble like the Lartey fight. Spence has fought one way pretty much his entire career. That seek & destroy style of wearing the opponent out. Maybe he hasn't had to show any other wrinkles in his game because of his opponents but I think he's ill prepared going into a fight with a vet like Brook. I'm hoping he proves me wrong & we get a Spence/Thurman fight but I can't turn a blind eye to his faults.
 

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Howard foster is the ref :snoop:
Welp, somebody's getting "stopped"

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@Yuzo spence trainer say they don't practice combos during training. he says because you rarely see combos land during real fights. says he prefers just practicing countering one punch at a time. do u agree with this method of training?

spence doesnt throw punches pre determinedly. when he throws a punch he is feeling you out and reading your reactions to pick when and where to add on more punches next.

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Funny thing is Spence doesn't even move his head. As Teddy Atlas has said he'll fuk around & someone will move it for him :lolbron:

spence doesnt move his head a lot but he does have a good step back. guys with good step backs tend to maintain front foot pressure to stay ready to press down and push off and step back. he may not move his head a lot but he does stay ready to step back.

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spence comes in carefully not recklessly. when he throws a jab he throws it to feel you out. he is trying to read your reactions to know when to add on more punches to the jab or when to step back. spence can counter but he is not really a counter puncher. he takes turns. my turn. your turn.

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spence uses his jab to feel you out and read you to know when to add on more punches and take his turn and he uses his step back when you try to take your turn. its basic. it works. brook uses his jab to hang you out on the end of his reach where he can maintain the range he needs to have to steal you with right hands, hit you with pull counters, and step back and hit you with check hooks.

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spence comes in carefully not recklessly and wont run into a lot of counters but just a threat of being countered can make spence a lot more tentative coming in. brook throws one jab every few seconds. spence is going to try to mount attacks during the dead gaps in between brook jabs. brook has to steal right hands and try to force spence to step back and reset when he is trying to take turns during his dead gaps. a mixture of counter punching and stealing can make spence tentative and uncertain and free up brook to coast with the jab.

Doesn't matter what he does in training bruh. I've seen just about all of his fights & he doesn't. He gets touched EVERY fight.

so does brook. but spence hits harder. when spence mounts attacks during brook dead gaps brook cant just cover up or be passive. spence can sense when you are just trying to cover up. when you get passive he gets vicious. when spence jabs and can sense nothing is coming back he adds on more punches.

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when spence adds on more punches to his jabs he tends to go down to the body and wrap up his combos with clean up hooks around your elbow. he likes to go down to the body but he really likes to hit you everywhere. arms. hips. up. down. he likes to make a lot of contact.

brook has to grab spence whenever he comes in to prevent big combos from racking up to avoid a lot of damage from accruing and compounding from round to round and to shut down a big chunk of where spence generates a lot of workrate.

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brook cant be stationary. spence likes to set his feet. a guy who can stick and move has a big advantage over a guy who has to set his feet to punch. the guy who can stick and move can maintain a nice and steady workrate but the guy who has to set his feet cant. when you stick and move on a guy who has to set his feet to punch you do two things. you bring up your workrate. you bring down his. brook is a mover but he is not a pure mover. he has a tendency to transition into a boxer puncher and he has a nasty habit of backing up into the ropes and into corners. he cant back up into the ropes and into corners or spence is going to take care of business.

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brook is a really cute boxer and he can do a lot of really cute things. but he is not a hard guy to get to and i think spence gets to brook.

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