Yasiin Bey(Mos Def) says Drake's music is pop and is compatible with shopping at Target.

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

Mos sounding like a hater. When's the last dope project/song he's put out?

one of my fav songs last year... can't say he's a old head hatin

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[Braman]

Idk man. For all drakes flaws, one thing I’ve always gave him credit for is when he reached that ‘I could drop a blank CD and go plat’ phase he still dropped dope music. And even tho we know it’s available to him, he hasn’t gone and made songs with Taylor swift or Shakira

Gods Plan
Nice for What
Laugh now cry later
Even the rich baby daddy song

These are all legit rap songs that just happened to blow. Calling Drake strictly pop is kinda like calling Hark Knock era Jay Life pop

And if you mention the singing, Yasiin been one of the most genre bending singing rappers ever

Edit: after watching the video his stance is more nuanced I think I agree

 

[Braman]

Mos sounding like a hater. When's the last dope project/song he's put out?

These 2 points aren’t mutually exclusive.

He does sound like a hater

But No Fear of Time just dropped a year ago and it is a phenomenal album.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

These 2 points aren’t mutually exclusive.

He does sound like a hater

But No Fear of Time just dropped a year ago and it is a phenomenal album.

To you. NOBODY was talking about that. Hell, I didn’t even know it existed.

 

[Braman]

To you. NOBODY was talking about that. Hell, I didn’t even know it existed.

You had to get the Luminary app and pay for it. Of course plenty of people didn’t get/hear it

 

[shazam]

mos def hasn't made much worth caring about for about 14 years but he's right

 

[Big Boss]

 

[Jerz-2]

So you have to have a current hit or be presently relevant in order for your opinion to be valid....even when you were explicitly asked for your opinion.

Got it.



Y'all some fukkin dumbasses, f'real.

 

[Izanami]

It’s sad Drake stans catching feelings like the majority of For My Dogs wasn’t on some pop shyt. Like Drake just didn’t drop a whole pop album in Honestly Nevermind. The majority of his music is on some commercial shyt.



It sucks cause now they gotta act like Mos is washed and out of touch despite dropping a fire verse on JID last album. Not to mentioned being featured on Rocky’s and WSG recent albums.

Drake is a legend in his own right and can rap when he wants to but to say he is pop isn’t really a stretch.

 

[Rhyme n Tekniq]

Mos always been on his own cloud and not giving a fukk about what Mainstream rap has going on. He's consistent. Mos aint hatin
he's held the same firm perspective of hip hop since the beginning,

 

[Braman]

Damn you Aaron McGruder, I cannot listen to Mos anymore without hearing Gangstalicious

 

[Shadow King]

You know how we look back at the Eminem era with disdain? It'll be the same thing with Drake, but much worse lol

Drake makes music for women and clubs so this won't be the case.

He's Hip Hop now. The original Emcee's use to get the crowds hype. The first 15 years of Hip Hop, the Emcee's were on some: Hip Hop Hibbity Hip Hop you don't stop type rhymes. People act like snobs now trying to say some people are Hip Hop and some people aren't. Drake is pop, but he's also Hip Hop.

No.

 

[prophecypro]

This discourse about this on twitter is as annoying as you might have guessed

 

[tremonthustler1]

He's not wrong, but if Drake is Target, what's Mos Def? Foot Locker? Cuz they were holding him and Rawkus down in the early 2000s.

 

[Shadow King]

Early hip hop being party music and modern hip-hop being pop music aren't the same at all.

Early hip-hop was from the street and for the people in the street. Those parties were block parties in the PJs. The music was the soundtrack of the NY ghetto.

Early hip-hop wasn't getting advertising placement, and definitely wasn't getting played in shopping malls. White folks was calling it jungle music. They was scared of hip-hop.

The early rappers wasn't rich kids from Toronto, they was poor kids from the PJs. They might have been kicking cat in the hat ass rhymes but they was from the street, they was from the block, they was part of the neighbourhood. They wasn't trying to kick shyt to make white folks happy, they was just kicking shyt that was gonna be fly in they hood. It was relatable for people in the hood.

It ain't the same as making non-threatening crossover music for the pop crowd to vibe to.

And most importantly, hip hop fortified itself as a culture and viable genre when actual messages capturing their environment became a part of the art, which was much earlier than 15 years in.