Y2J Says CM Punk Has Gone As Far He's Going To Go, Feels Ryback Should Beat Him

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Also, Ryback going over Punk kills the "BEST IN THE WORLD", "330+ days of being WWE Champion", etc.

Ryback is the best in the world? :rudy:

punk isn't either though. best in the world is just a rehash of bret's the best there was the best there is.

is ryback ready? who knows. but ill tell you this, you don't build him up like this and he's getting hot reactions just to have him do the job, it takes away everything you've done to build him in the first place. it's counter-intuitive.

the state the wwe is in now, you go with the hot hand leading into the end of the year and you decide what you wanna do from rumble and on. punk keeping the title does nothing for the show. it's the same shyt.

what's punk gonna do if he goes over? feud with cena again? he ain't transcending anything or doing anything. his best bet is the rock or austin or brock getting involved, it's a tired act at this point.
 
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punk isn't either though. best in the world is just a rehash of bret's the best there was the best there is.

is ryback ready? who knows. but ill tell you this, you don't build him up like this and he's getting hot reactions just to have him do the job, it takes away everything you've done to build him in the first place. it's counter-intuitive.

the state the wwe is in now, you go with the hot hand leading into the end of the year and you decide what you wanna do from rumble and on. punk keeping the title does nothing for the show. it's the same shyt.

what's punk gonna do if he goes over? feud with cena again? he ain't transcending anything or doing anything. his best bet is the rock or austin or brock getting involved, it's a tired act at this point.

Ryback isn't going to be a star or carry the company. He's just a flash in the pan. He doesn't get a major pop everywhere he goes. You put the title on him and then what? He feuds with Albert for a month before he drops the title to Cena? It does nothing but hurt your major star and ruins the credibility of the title. Punk needs to be the WWE champion heading into the Royal Rumble to signify he truly is in the upper echelon of champions.
 

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Ryback isn't going to be a star or carry the company. He's just a flash in the pan. He doesn't get a major pop everywhere he goes. You put the title on him and then what? He feuds with Albert for a month before he drops the title to Cena? It does nothing but hurt your major star and ruins the credibility of the title. Punk needs to be the WWE champion heading into the Royal Rumble to signify he truly is in the upper echelon of champions.

they put the title on shame us after he beat like hardcore holly or some jobber against JOHN CENA and everyone drank and still drinking the kool-aid. what did he show you to deserve he won the title?
 

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they put the title on shame us after he beat like hardcore holly or some jobber against JOHN CENA and everyone drank and still drinking the kool-aid. what did he show you to deserve he won the title?

I'm not a fan of Sheamus either. But I think Sheam is at least more entertaining than Ryback. :manny:

It's never a good idea to put the title on the "hot" star because they can never sustain it, at least not today. Things are different now.

But anyway, Ryback doesn't have to lose clean or even lose, he just can't be champion. I can easily see a Dusty finish coming where both men come out alright, or a Brock Lesnar interference to set up a Ryback/Lesnar feud. Punk stays being the WWE champion and Ryback doesn't come out looking weak.
 

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I love how Jericho grows balls every time hes on break with the company, meanwhile when hes there he does not say shyt

ryback is not the guy to pass the torch too :damn:
 
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:russ: Dwayne crushin buildings and causing confusion while sitting in his mansion smokin a blunt and gettin top from bad Brazilian bytches

Rock got the IWC/TSC/WWE bookin going crazy and Rumble is 3 months away :heh:


1. Just let Ryback win because although Punk's the main heel, his title reign is shyt and no one gives a damn about how long he been champion. Dude takes a backseat to any Attitude Era legend who decides to show up.

2. Rock doesnt have to fight for the WWE title at Royal Rumble. Yall think just because he said it, doesnt mean the plans cant be changed??? Rock vs Punk needs no title for it be a money match. Ryback should be champion vs Dolph Ziggler
 
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:russ: Dwayne crushin buildings and causing confusion while sitting in his mansion smokin a blunt and gettin top from bad Brazilian bytches

Rock got the IWC/TSC/WWE bookin going crazy and Rumble is 3 months away :heh:


1. Just let Ryback win because although Punk's the main heel, his title reign is shyt and no one gives a damn about how long he been champion. Dude takes a backseat to any Attitude Era legend who decides to show up.

2. Rock doesnt have to fight for the WWE title at Royal Rumble. Yall think just because he said it, doesnt mean the plans cant be changed??? Rock vs Punk needs no title for it be a money match. Ryback should be champion vs Dolph Ziggler

It's quite easy for Ryback to win the title Sunday and lose it before RR, quite easy indeed.

They can book him in a triple threat and have him lose without losing right back to CM Punk. But the time is now to make the star.
 

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Dudes are kind of throwing stones at Ryback because Jersey was trying to be different and didn't get behind him like everyone else has the last several weeks. They were marking out for some of the Punk and Heyman lines but not ALL THAT MUCH. They were dead for alot of that stuff in general after Cena came out and c/s Ryback and no one was gonna go crazy for Ryback after Cena did that. So that's not a barometer to judge Ryback compared to the weeks of past.

He shouldn't lose by pinfall or submission and that's just the bottom line to it. Punk vs Rock can happen and by the tweets, it has to be what's next but should they destroy this investment before they get any payoffs from the onset?
 

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Whatever the hell that is to happen Sunday one thing is clear:

Ryback would have to win cleanly and Punk can't win clean.

Wouldn't a "run in" be TOO obvious at this point in the game?
 

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Dudes are kind of throwing stones at Ryback because Jersey was trying to be different and didn't get behind him like everyone else has the last several weeks. They were marking out for some of the Punk and Heyman lines but not ALL THAT MUCH. They were dead for alot of that stuff in general after Cena came out and c/s Ryback and no one was gonna go crazy for Ryback after Cena did that. So that's not a barometer to judge Ryback compared to the weeks of past.

He shouldn't lose by pinfall or submission and that's just the bottom line to it. Punk vs Rock can happen and by the tweets, it has to be what's next but should they destroy this investment before they get any payoffs from the onset?

Yes it is worth it..

Punk has to be the "best in the world" for The Rock vs Punk even mean anything.

Ryback winning destroys that whole plan...and Ryback aint worth it :yeshrug:
 

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It's quite easy for Ryback to win the title Sunday and lose it before RR, quite easy indeed.

They can book him in a triple threat and have him lose without losing right back to CM Punk. But the time is now to make the star.

Is it really making him a star though? Especially if he loses it that fast
 

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Is it really making him a star though? Especially if he loses it that fast

His sudden attention is good for momentary momentum. I wouldn't doubt that his steam starts to die after Sunday :manny:

Get what you can outta hoes while they still got it, then you know where :birdman:
 
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