Xbox, Nintendo, and Sony Won't Be Part of E3 2023

[Gizmo_Duck]

don't like haters that front like they care about the bigger picture when in reality everything they do is in self interest.

The irony

Therefore Geoff is on my list, on top of that he helped kill what was one of my favorite time of the years for decades now.

E3 was dead before SGF even started. It’s like being mad that game magazines and cheat codes are dead. Summer Games Fest is not the reason a bunch of companies aren’t spending millions of dollars to get on stage and try and sell people games that they’re gonna buy anyway.

If theres anyone to blame you should blame Nintendo for starting the direct to consumer digital marketing trends

 

[The Mad Titan]

The irony



E3 was dead before SGF even started. It’s like being mad that game magazines and cheat codes are dead. Summer Games Fest is not the reason a bunch of companies aren’t spending millions of dollars to get on stage and try and sell people games that they’re gonna buy anyway.

If theres anyone to blame you should blame Nintendo for starting the direct to consumer digital marketing trends

This E3 is dead narrative really only started popping up once Geoff started laying into it with FUD.

E3 like everything else around covid was having problems. But Geoff twisted the knife and provided a replacement while creating a narrative.



People ain't saying he killed E3 randomly, it's because he always had something negative to say about it or was promoting SGF or something over it.

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

I don't like haters that front like they care about the bigger picture when in reality everything they do is in self interest.

Therefore Geoff is on my list, on top of that he helped kill what was one of my favorite time of the years for decades now.

Hilariously ironic coming from you.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Hilariously ironic coming from you.

Thanks for the input

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

People ain't saying he killed E3 randomly, it's because he always had something negative to say about it or was promoting SGF or something over it.

People have always been negative about E3, especially since 2016

Like this wasn’t that long ago, everyone always complained about how E3 was falling off, how every press conference was wack, too much talking, not even gameplay, etc. same shyt people complain about now.

The gamer mentality is to constantly shyt on something and when it fails cry about why everyone but themselves is the reason it failed

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Sony stan’s used to hate this dude.

Wonder why they are fans all of a sudden

 

[winb83]

I don't like haters that front like they care about the bigger picture when in reality everything they do is in self interest.

Yeah that's definitely what he did. Opportunist that tried to destroy something just so he could replace it with damn near the same thing. Like a guy that works with your company steals trade secrets and launches a competing product.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Yeah that's definitely what he did. Opportunist that tried to destroy something just so he could replace it with damn near the same thing. Like a guy that works with your company steals trade secrets and launches a competing product.

More like a new business that saw a weakness in what a bigger business was doing and took advantage of the new market. Thats like the basis of capitalism, its why amazon exists, and wal mart before it, and super malls before that

You argue this about gamepasss everyday but hold it against Keighly for essentially doing the same thing lol

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Geoff ain’t kill E3.

But he definitely been in the cut like

 

[winb83]

More like a new business that saw a weakness in what a bigger business was doing and took advantage of the new market. Thats like the basis of capitalism, its why amazon exists, and wal mart before it, and super malls before that

You argue this about gamepasss everyday but hold it against Keighly for essentially doing the same thing lol

He literally was their front man hosting their event then started his own event that's pretty much the same thing.

He put this together back in 2020 if I recall when E3 was canceled due to Covid. He saw he could replace it went for their throats.

Notice he didn't make Spring Game Fest. He used their same exact timing leaning into companies who would be holding their own events at this time anyway.

Even now he is still promoting SGF by taking shots at E3. I think it's pretty clear that if E3 didn't meet such heavy misfortune especially with Covid was still going SGF wouldn't be as relevant. For SGF to thrive E3 has to go away.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

He literally was their front man hosting their event then started his own event that's pretty much the same thing.

Yes, most successful business owners typically gain knowledge and experience through another before starting their own, you’re not really saying nothing new. Its not a villain arc, its one business failing and another taking its place by taking advantage of a new consumer base.

ESA was slow to adapt and expensive for publishers to partake in. The old business model failed them.

Again, if SGF had not come along we’d be getting the xbox showcase and probably a lot of smaller digital streams through publishers in its place. We’d just be getting one less major game showcase and less cohesiveness among the other streams.

Without Keighly summer gaming events in general are just dead

 

[winb83]

Yes, most successful business owners typically gain knowledge and experience through another before starting their own, you’re not really saying nothing new. Its not a villain arc, its one business failing and another taking its place by taking advantage of a new consumer base.

ESA was slow to adapt and expensive for publishers to partake in. The old business model failed them.

Again, if SGF had not come along we’d be getting the xbox showcase and probably a lot of smaller digital streams through publishers in its place. We’d just be getting one less major game showcase and less cohesiveness among the other streams.

Without Keighly summer gaming events in general are just dead

He hosted E3. There he established relationships with these companies and figures from that privileged position then leveraged that into creating SGF. That's exactly like working from a company using their trade secrets and starting your own rival business trying to put them out of business.

Sony just had a showcase that definitely wasn't a part of SGF. GamesCon still exist in August. If E3 died and SGF didn't exist these large companies would still follow the same showcase schedule they did where they hosted them days to a week before the E3 conference was held. Sure some smaller devs would have to adjust but they'd probably just focus on PAX events.

Had he not inserted himself into this it would have resolved itself naturally.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

He hosted E3. There he established relationships with these companies and figures from that privileged position then leveraged that into creating SGF. That's exactly like working from a company using their trade secrets and starting your own rival business trying to put them out of business.

So if i go work an internship at google, and start my own tech company, that makes me a bad guy? I hate to break it to you but most companies don’t really have “trade” secrets, building relationships and connections through a job is the the steps you take to start your own operation eventually. There is not one business leader in this world that didn’t do exactly that.

There is no intellectual property or patents being stolen here, relationships are open market.

 

[winb83]

So if i go work an internship at google, and start my own tech company, that makes me a bad guy? I hate to break it to you but most companies don’t really have “trade” secrets, building relationships and connections through a job is the the steps you take to start your own operation eventually. There is not one business leader in this world that didn’t do exactly that.

There is no intellectual property or patents being stolen here, relationships are open market.

I'm not saying it makes him a bad guy. You're also dressing up what he did. He was essentially an employee that decided he would kill off the business he worked for and replace it with a very similar business. I'd argue that what he's doing now isn't drastically better than what E3 was already. Some others here would probably say it's smaller and inferior. Either way he's been ruthlessly pushing to kill E3 for a minute now and while I don't think most consider SGF to be what killed it. He personally using his celebrity built up doing E3 contributed to the narrative that E3 needs to go away.

It's like when Mr. Mobile https://www.youtube.com/@TheMrMobile left Pocketnow https://www.youtube.com/@Pocketnow and started his own YouTube channel. He was their front man and did videos for them. No doubt he leveraged relationships he built working for Pocketnow into his own channel. He also didn't attack Pocketnow after leaving. He constantly is at events with them and has their current host on his channel and in his videos all the time. They peacefully coexist in a mutually beneficial way.

E3 has to die for SGF to be truly relevant. Otherwise it's just background noise of what would still be E3 season.

 

[daze23]

trade shows are from an era when you went to Electronics Boutique to pick up the latest issue of EGM