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....and Xbox stans aren't worse?

Uncharted was more of a Tomb Raider knock off to begin with... but wait, since the first 5 TR games were out before the Xbox was even thought of, nikkas just had to pull a random Xbox game out their ass to prove a point. Wow, you guys are like the Pac stans of gaming.
 

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....and Xbox stans aren't worse?

Uncharted was more of a Tomb Raider knock off to begin with... but wait, since the first 5 TR games were out before the Xbox was even thought of, nikkas just had to pull a random Xbox game out their ass to prove a point. Wow, you guys are like the Pac stans of gaming.

:comeon: so the cover system from Uncharted isn't derived from Gears?


I'm not stanning either system, I have both and I will probably buy both next generation. My original statement was that there wasn't much originality this generation period, and that heavy rain was one of the only really innovative games. So how am I an Xbox Stan?
 

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Halo I'm sorry was NOT epic. I played and beat Halo 1 and it was a good FPS but there wasn't "epic" scale battles and huge setpieces in it. That's what I'm talking about. After Uncharted 2 came out it seemed as if every game tried to do cinematic scenes and huge setpieces coupled with real life mo cap acting. Played Halo 4? Since when did Halo have all these set pieces and acting in it's cinematics? What about the new Tomb Raider?? Or what about Castlevania looking like God of War and that other rip off Dante's Inferno jacking God of War?

Hell even Sony games themselves started to borrow elements from Uncharted like INfamous 2. I noticed right after Uncharted 2 launch and got critical reception a lot of games started to squeeze uncharted like elements in their game. Bioshock 1 doesn't remind me of that. COD yea but every game is a COD imitator now even Uncharted tried to borrow from COD in it's MP but UC2 SP was a huge influence to most other games.

:laff::laff::laff::laff: at all this, does KOTOR, Jade Empire, And ME not exist All three of those games was full of cinematic scenes and huge setpieces stop talking out your ass.

Infact Uncharted 2 and Mass Effect 2 was done at the same time : , lol at this bs you writing.
 

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:childplease: see that's why there is no point in even talking about these things with you fanboys. You'll gladly ignore reality, and rewrite history to try and prove your point. Everything about Halo was epic, there's no other word you could use to describe that game.
Except Halo wasn't epic in the sense of what I'm talking about. Halo Combat Evolved wasn't epic in cinematic's, storytelling, acting etc. Everything that was good about Halo 1 is irrelevant to what I'm saying.

From the huge battles involving multiple enemies, allies, and vehicles, to the story spanning multiple generations, planets, and races. Hell even the music was epic.
Are we talking about Mass Effect?? Again Halo had nothing to do with epic campaigns where it influenced future games. It was basically a good SP game at the time with a MP that pioneered online MP for FPS's.


I agree that God of War has influenced a lot of games, but even that's arguable since Ninja Gaiden came out first.
Ninja Gaiden is not fukking with God of War in terms of scale, gameplay and etc. Ninja Gaiden is some flashy, bloody ninja esque game that's basically niche. God of War had these crazy over the top decapitations, huge monsters, excellent gameplay and GFX.

So if COD and Gears of War influenced Uncharted, then how is it that uncharted is influencing all these games?
You ignored the fact that Kill switch influenced Gears which did improve the cover system and that's it. Gears besides being a TPS is different compared to Uncharted because Gears doesn't have the traversal mechanics, praise worthy story telling, stellar graphics, and realistic acting compared to Uncharted.

Gears of War is trailing behind Uncharted in all those categories.
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Nothing has topped this scene in UC2.
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That whole game was a roller coaster ride that never let up in thrills, spins and awesomeness. It literally sealed PS3 as the greatest console ever in just those few minutes. Nothing has come close to eclipsing that game overall but Last of Us may do so and whaddyaknow? It's made by the same people!

There's nothing fluid like that in Gears 3. Everything is just animations transitioning from roadie runs, taking cover and executions. You can't run, take cover, pop and shoot, jump over cover and jump across platforms or hang off a cliff and shoot. You just can't.
Wouldn't it seem that it's still COD and gears doing the influencing?
COD is doing the influencing in MP and everything copycat MP that's come out has taken a few bells and whistles and tried to put their spin on it which failed. Halo 4 which was the leading MP game for a decade tried to pull it off on some "this is ordinance drops, something you earn while playing" and all these other umbrella terms and failed. The population is steadily declining and I'm willing to beat it tumbles down the xbox live activity list in the coming months unless they do some drastic changes. Again Halo is a good game but it's marred by COD's existence and power and isn't supreme as it used to be.
 

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:laff::laff::laff::laff: at all this, does KOTOR, Jade Empire, And ME not exist All three of those games was full of cinematic scenes and huge setpieces stop talking out your ass.

Infact Uncharted 2 and Mass Effect 2 was done at the same time : , lol at this bs you writing.

Please Mass Effect had to be the stiffest game ever to try to pull off cinematics. If it was developed exclusively for PS3 it would've been much better had they use it's power.
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Mass Effect needs a next gen engine implemented ASAP.
 

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Except Halo wasn't epic in the sense of what I'm talking about. Halo Combat Evolved wasn't epic in cinematic's, storytelling, acting etc. Everything that was good about Halo 1 is irrelevant to what I'm saying.

Are we talking about Mass Effect?? Again Halo had nothing to do with epic campaigns where it influenced future games. It was basically a good SP game at the time with a MP that pioneered online MP for FPS's.

Either you've never played through Halo, or your in denial. Halo spawned books, comics, live action movies, and an entire world/mythology that spans thousands of years, and plenty of different locals and characters. But no Halo isn't epic:heh:

Ninja Gaiden is not fukking with God of War in terms of scale, gameplay and etc. Ninja Gaiden is some flashy, bloody ninja esque game that's basically niche. God of War had these crazy over the top decapitations, huge monsters, excellent gameplay and GFX.
That's your opinion. Point is both games are influential. And ninja gaiden had decapitations and huge monsters first.:manny:

You ignored the fact that Kill switch influenced Gears which did improve the cover system and that's it. Gears besides being a TPS is different compared to Uncharted because Gears doesn't have the traversal mechanics, praise worthy story telling, stellar graphics, and realistic acting compared to Uncharted.
I didn't ignore anything, but if you can't admit that uncharted drew influences from the games before it, then I don't know what to tell you. And :pachaha: at gears not having "stellar graphics"

Gears of War is trailing behind Uncharted in all those categories.
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Nothing has topped this scene in UC2.
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That whole game was a roller coaster ride that never let up in thrills, spins and awesomeness. It literally sealed PS3 as the greatest console ever in just those few minutes. Nothing has come close to eclipsing that game overall but Last of Us may do so and whaddyaknow? It's made by the same people!
You fanboys are funny. Ratings, sales, and critical acclaim prove this statement is just the ramblings of a fanboy, devoid of any facts or logical reasoning
There's nothing fluid like that in Gears 3. Everything is just animations transitioning from roadie runs, taking cover and executions. You can't run, take cover, pop and shoot, jump over cover and jump across platforms or hang off a cliff and shoot. You just can't.
The only thing you can't do is jump over platforms and hang off cliffs to shoot, mechanics which were pointless in Uncharted because the developers were more concerned with showing you big explosions, and having you mow down rooms full of bad guys.
COD is doing the influencing in MP and everything copycat MP that's come out has taken a few bells and whistles and tried to put their spin on it which failed. Halo 4 which was the leading MP game for a decade tried to pull it off on some "this is ordinance drops, something you earn while playing" and all these other umbrella terms and failed. The population is steadily declining and I'm willing to beat it tumbles down the xbox live activity list in the coming months unless they do some drastic changes. Again Halo is a good game but it's marred by COD's existence and power and isn't supreme as it used to be.
Pointless ramblings. Halo has enjoyed more success over the years than uncharted ever will. I personally don't care much for either game, but if you can't admit that Halo has been much more influential on gaming thus far, then I don't know what to tell you.
 

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Halo 1 and 2 were definitely epic...the ending of part 1 was not epic to you? I still remember driving through all those enemies towards the end like yesterday...that was dope

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Fatboi is delusional. Uncharted is nothing more than a pretty Gears of War knockoff. PS3 stans are worse than tea-partiers sometimes.
you are a pretty bad troll...those games are nothing alike

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you are a pretty bad troll...those games are nothing alike

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Do you think the gameplay isn't similar? Not talking about the stories, or animations, but the actual gameplay, or more precisely the shooting mechanics.

In my opinion uncharted took the theme and exploration of tomb raider, the epic set pieces and production values of COD, and the shooting mechanics of Gears. Then added a coat of "summer blockbuster movie" paint. Its great to look at and show off how "cool" your ps3 is, but when it comes to actual innovation in gameplay, the game is severely lacking.
 

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I pray that games dont still anything from uncharted automatic animations = :trash:
 

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Either you've never played through Halo, or your in denial. Halo spawned books, comics, live action movies, and an entire world/mythology that spans thousands of years, and plenty of different locals and characters. But no Halo isn't epic:heh:
Books, comics movies etc are for FANS of Halo which they will always proclaim Halo to be the greatest thing ever. Personally I don't see the big deal. Yea it's a good shooting game but besides that I couldn't care less about Halo, elites, Master Chief and his space galactic warfare.
That's your opinion. Point is both games are influential. And ninja gaiden had decapitations and huge monsters first.:manny:
Doesn't matter GOW did it better and was more cinematic.

I didn't ignore anything, but if you can't admit that uncharted drew influences from the games before it, then I don't know what to tell you. And :pachaha: at gears not having "stellar graphics"
Uncharted basically combined elements from games before it and perfected it. Uncharted 2's shooting mechanics and seamless gameplay rival Gears of Wars. I feel as though UC2 had the best shooting mechanics ever in a TPS. To me it's UC2>>>>><<Gears of War 3>>>>UC3>>MP3>>ME3.
You fanboys are funny. Ratings, sales, and critical acclaim prove this statement is just the ramblings of a fanboy, devoid of any facts or logical reasoning
So your saying that Uncharted 2 did not get multiple game of the year awards, amazing sales(15 million copies shipped in series), critical acclaim?
Uncharted is almost a household name by now. It's rise in popularity wasn't due to fanboyism.
The only thing you can't do is jump over platforms and hang off cliffs to shoot, mechanics which were pointless in Uncharted because the developers were more concerned with showing you big explosions, and having you mow down rooms full of bad guys.
Except Gears of War is basically a corridor shooter with wave after wave of bad aliens minus the aforementioned gameplay additions. Also Uncharted has puzzles and the hanging off cliffs and melee attacks were pivotal at some parts of the game.
Pointless ramblings. Halo has enjoyed more success over the years than uncharted ever will. I personally don't care much for either game, but if you can't admit that Halo has been much more influential on gaming thus far, then I don't know what to tell you.
The fact that we are even having this conversation about a decade old game series which fostered a huge allegiance from it's fans and biased game critics, versus a modern game that's popularity is soaring and is being mentioned in the same sentence as Halo is laudable. :yeshrug:
 

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Do you think the gameplay isn't similar? Not talking about the stories, or animations, but the actual gameplay, or more precisely the shooting mechanics.

In my opinion uncharted took the theme and exploration of tomb raider, the epic set pieces and production values of COD, and the shooting mechanics of Gears. Then added a coat of "summer blockbuster movie" paint. Its great to look at and show off how "cool" your ps3 is, but when it comes to actual innovation in gameplay, the game is severely lacking.

You can't say Uncharted's gameplay isn't innovative and then expect one not to infer from that profound statement that Gears is innovative. Gears brought nothing new to the shooting genre:Something that was always there. Uncharted mixed together the bread and butter of several games into one action packed, titan of a game. THAT is innovative because that of itself wasn't done before.
 

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Uncharted basically combined elements from games before it and perfected it. Uncharted 2's shooting mechanics and seamless gameplay rival Gears of Wars. I feel as though UC2 had the best shooting mechanics ever in a TPS. To me it's UC2>>>>><<Gears of War 3>>>>UC3>>MP3>>ME3.

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Uncharted non weight shooting mechanics is :trash: and basic thus is why they changed the shytty online multiple times to compete with gears. gears is leagues ahead of uncharted as a shooter foh fakkit.
 
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