Wu Tang Forever was the beginning of the end.

[Alvin]

Yeah.

It was something bout the album that was off.

Like it didn't have that Wu cohesive energy.

Everyone was in a different space.

Yet some will hearld it as one of their greatest.

It is, the evolution RZA did on that album was amazing.

My only gripe was GZA & Meth weren't on it that much

 

[Alvin]

yall are fukkin crazy. I assume this thread is bone fans tryna pull some passive agressive shyt

nikkas still smoking dust

 

[Alvin]

Of course it was the beginning of the end, as it was the end of Rza's 5 year plan they had agreed on. They all kind of became their own leaders post-Forever, as established stars vs hungry up and coming MCs, so obviously the music was gonna be different. I wish they had all chosen to keep on working within the extended Wu Fam because there was more than enough talent. And that Rza had supervised more closely with the Wu Fam Mcs and producers (Sunz of Man, Killarmy, Timbo King, Shyheim, 4th, etc...) to kind of have a stronger Wu post 5 year plan

Killarmy and Sunz of Man were the only good ones, the rest were ass to me

 

[Alvin]

nobody talks about how Wu started to fall off partly because RZA started using keyboard beats with shytty stock drums (non-breakbeats) probably for cost and clearance reasons

He was on dust, also wanted to change his sound. That being said GFK brought him back home when he dropped SC

 

[altruicsense]

TheColi rewriting history again. Are you insane? This gave us Reunited, Triumph, Maria and Projects.

 

[Wild self]

it could be alot deeper than that......digital processing was about to become the norm, and the people who decided that are probably so powerful that they make dudes like iovine and dre look like fukkin peons. Rza might not have even had a choice. I dont wanna turn this into one of those threads tho

You mean, Doug Morris?

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Wu-Tang Forever is the best double disc album off all time tf you talkin bout OP ?

I dont even disagree with this, but I still find it funny when people say shyt like this. Up until like 2005 or so there were only like 5 double albums in hip-hop. That ain't exactly a smorgasbord of a sample size to choose from.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

TheColi rewriting history again. Are you insane? This gave us Reunited, Triumph, Maria and Projects.

you know what it is. 1993 - 96 was my high school years. Prime Wu evokes memories during that era.

1996 I moved to Cali. Hip Hop also evolved starting in 97 and my east Coast bias had started to fade.

I was living on the west coast, still reppin the boom bap era 96-98 but it wasn’t the same really. The music had expanded.


Not to mention, they were following up 4 classic albums (I’m not including Tical), so expectations were high. It just didn’t feel the same after a few days of bumpin it.

 

[LJLYDK!]

The differences on sound in 36 Chambers & Wu Tang Forever can be compared to the differences in sound on illmatic & IWW imo if that makes any sense.

Not shytting on Wu Forever or IWW coz I fukk with both Heavily but they ain’t no 36 Chambers or Illmatic And that’s okay. They Shouldnt have to be. Their completely separate entities.

that’s what annoys me when people say Wu fell off as a group after 36 & Nas fell off after Illmatic. No they didn’t. People just want artists to be one dimensional

 

[prophecypro]

Its still a classic but at the time it definetly lost a few mainstream fans of theres with the production and topics being quite deep
Probably also didnt help that a month after it dropped the summerjam incident happend and they were slowly being dropped from radio playlists
It would have been interesting to see if the radio had played some joints, that probably in itself helped advance the jiggy era too

Looking back now though its a great album with unique production (Some that I think influenced Kanye and Just and more sped up samples) and I think the topics were mature and great to take i and decypher

 

[newworldafro]

Rza said give me 5 years to captain the ship

93 36 Chambers
94
95
96
97 Wu Tang Forever

Technically he did his part.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Their unique sound was gone. Solo albums were meh, and they slowly and quietly faded.

it was the end of an era. Ghostface, Inspeckah Deck and GZA drooped decent solo projects but everyone was basically chasing a wu sound that was never coming back

Machine gun rap for all my nikkas in the back

 

[Drew Wonder]

Their unique sound was gone. Solo albums were meh, and they slowly and quietly faded.

it was the end of an era. Ghostface, Inspeckah Deck and GZA drooped decent solo projects but everyone was basically chasing a wu sound that was never coming back

Supreme Clientele, Fishscale and OB4CL 2 are more than “decent”

 

[Alvin]

The differences on sound in 36 Chambers & Wu Tang Forever can be compared to the differences in sound on illmatic & IWW imo if that makes any sense.

Not shytting on Wu Forever or IWW coz I fukk with both Heavily but they ain’t no 36 Chambers or Illmatic And that’s okay. They Shouldnt have to be. Their completely separate entities.

that’s what annoys me when people say Wu fell off as a group after 36 & Nas fell off after Illmatic. No they didn’t. People just want artists to be one dimensional

Kanye too

 

[WaveMolecules]

It mightve been better as a single disc but wutang forever is great.