Wu-Tang Clan Docuseries ‘Of Mics and Men on Showtime(Available on Demand)

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Especially when Cap was like I'm fukked up. Let me hold summin



IMO Chivalangs (or whatever breh name is) idea and concept wasn't a bad idea and was on point imo.


My only issue is that the 2 million wasn't split evenly amongst the clan (to my knowledge at least). It seems like if the clan got their share of the profit they'd be cool with it too.

RZA looked awkward as hell at the end when they dissed the project knowing he backed it 100 percent and probably got a decent portion of that 2 mill
Right. Where is Cilva at now I wonder??? I wonder how much RZA got off that album, and how much each member got paid for their verses? It was only right to split that but once again them niccas didn't do their due diligence regarding business transactions.
 

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What lies are you talking about? And what would you like to know about Ohio?
Someone on here said Ghostface bankrolled the clan solely through hustling in Ohio with some bloods, or some shyt like that. According to the doc, it was Divine and Power. I just wanted to hear more about Ohio and the shyt that happened, FBI files because of gunrunning, etc. But this wasn't that kinda documentary. Basically all of the legendary shyt we've been hearing about
 

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Someone on here said Ghostface bankrolled the clan solely through hustling in Ohio with some bloods, or some shyt like that. According to the doc, it was Divine and Power. I just wanted to hear more about Ohio and the shyt that happened, FBI files because of gunrunning, etc. But this wasn't that kinda documentary. Basically all of the legendary shyt we've been hearing about


Basically the alleged criminal stuff
 

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It's cool I laughed when I saw it too. Just crazy how I know I grew up on they music..literally.
Me too man. They remind me of me and my cousins growing up. Not from a business perspective, but how even though they are separate they will still go to war with niccas over one another. You can tell they truly love one another
 

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That’s what I was thinking fukkin their bread up like that.

But in reality that was 2000 by that time after supreme clientele came out the Wu really stopped making a lot of music and when they did it wasn’t that great or radio friendly so it’s not like they had a bunch of songs that could have blown up on the radio anyway and because of Ghost they were held back

If Ghost said that three or four years earlier then you’re talking about fukkin up a lot of money and a lot of potential songs that could have blown up not blowing up


hot97, was imo subterfuge to cover up the fact.
rza was caught with his pants down after the flood or fire.
as naturally any creator would same as q tip was in that era.
if you get caught in that drawing time and era. Having to start at ground zero and then recreate sellable commodity material from scratch. Which built on a library of material over possibly two decades at that point in time.

so instead of trying to recreate he moved right back into his old mca way of commercialism.
just like tip.
yet now he had political sway culturally and the jiggy argument to float around and use as finger pointing. While in essence the clan got lost doing the same thing they originally were completely against.
by trying to play commercial from a soft perspective and direction. Instead of sticking to their guns and re-immersing themselves.
into what brought them to the dance sonically and as the actual quality act of the entire industry.
all of the clan got hurt.
trying to make commercial submissions.
which were completely far an away.
from who they were or are and what makes them an actual draw. All the clan had to basically be dusted off from commercial sellout-Dom and reramp and then get re-rated.
which luklckily the mixtape era provided the large sample size like submission based arena to showcase this rededication. As rae is arguably in volume with fiddy, cam, sp, busta as the highest quality mixtape artist by release of material.
where over time the attention to rae'a solid quality of work in volume was contagious. So over time members who fell off culturally and skillwise got to ramp. Plus did so under light hearted scrutiny over dire counter culture based issues as well.

some people forget all that happened and imo the special glosses over all this. Then tries in tongue in cheek to substantiate these moves.
by only giving half truths about what happened all the way.

not to mention, the special being by mass appeal harks to much on the impact of their sales. Not what made them wtf they were and the mystique. As the special goes full tilt into the sales and not into how it happened and how long it took for cream to even materialize.

that was the negatives of which still kinda do not put into light the era really well and the change. Yet this is wu and for those negatives.

I had infinitely more actual tear jerk moments consistently during this special.

I feel the special did not go indepth to who they were originally well enough.
when it should have been definitive to what the wu were. In which they literally administrated complete industry wide change administratively in a realm and business based on complete lack of good faith.
that to have the theme of the last parts de-evolve and not show the full realm or establish full duality in what exactly wu tang is or was. Is kinda lost in this special. Yet it has magic to hold it up way past similar specials.
yet it also has the effect of not saying.
what an importance it was as to the full complete gamut of what took place.
the special makes the wu into the losers from jiggy.
when we all lost from jiggy.
when the wu actually found a way to defeat the prison industrial economy basis marketed in rap with sheer ingenuity and reverse misappropriation. Far beyond what the ten percenter misleading the eight five would have ever seen their work be exposed as. This special left out alot according to that and how the slang barrier across the world was broken from what wu brought. That to this day. The breakdown of their slang is one of the biggest changes in human speech in modern times.
to the point everyone knows their slang components and uses it consistently.

that was left out of this special and it should have been a huge part of it.
especially how the whole world has this headfake.
like they are so hip to all slang moving forward.
imo, the special is good but it would have been legendary. If it did not try to put in the auction and make the special not show the duality of the group from the beginning and why. Imo the special tries to validate what hurt them and in that it hurts the culture of hip hop moving forward. As commercial and ol school jiggyism slash mca way ism is what hurt the clan. The special really tried to validate the clan moving in the mca way. When originally the clan was against the mca way. Yet still lost because they re-implemented or never truly ditched the mca way all together. As that is what was lost in this special. As this special should not have went in the wu being some rnb like group with an edge. Like most of these specials. It should have enhanced that the culture of new school way of thought based rap and its artists. Were supposed to be creating a way to never be enslaved my the mca way ever. This special glosses over that and the morality of the wu and this special.
are why i mark it at two and half stars.
not three as this special should have been the special to highlight exactly why the wu is where they are as a drawing group from the beginning. As this special never showed that the wu should never have succumbed to any of wtf happened. Considering who they were culturally as well


as this special is of the re-ramp gateway variety.
yet it misses all the gateway reason wholeheartedly and definitively as to why wu tang came to be in the first place.





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Someone on here said Ghostface bankrolled the clan solely through hustling in Ohio with some bloods, or some shyt like that. According to the doc, it was Divine and Power. I just wanted to hear more about Ohio and the shyt that happened, FBI files because of gunrunning, etc. But this wasn't that kinda documentary. Basically all of the legendary shyt we've been hearing about


From what I read Ghost bankrolled the original idea for WuTang and is credited as Exec Producer on 36 Chambers but it wasn’t from hustling (or at least major hustling) it was Divine and Power that contributed bread based off illegal street shyt
 

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Especially when Cap was like I'm fukked up. Let me hold summin



IMO Chivalangs (or whatever breh name is) idea and concept wasn't a bad idea and was on point imo.


My only issue is that the 2 million wasn't split evenly amongst the clan (to my knowledge at least). It seems like if the clan got their share of the profit they'd be cool with it too.

RZA looked awkward as hell at the end when they dissed the project knowing he backed it 100 percent and probably got a decent portion of that 2 mill

Why would it be split though? They left under the Wu-payment umbrella a long time ago, so whatever each person does belongs to each person. They didn't get splits off that Chamber Music, Legendary Weapons, or Math's albums, so this is no different. I think the problem was the media running with it being called a Wu-Tang album, when it was really another KillaBee compilation. It doesn't even say Wu-Tang Clan on it, and neither do those.
 

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That and beatin up niccas... how much they each made off they solo albums... Why RZA production style changed, etc. Wu is legends man if like to hear about as much as possible is all

They already denied the FBI stuff. I don't think they would admit to anything that you would want to know. I think Ghost was hustling with Divine. Rae used to hustle under Power.
 

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Right. Where is Cilva at now I wonder??? I wonder how much RZA got off that album, and how much each member got paid for their verses? It was only right to split that but once again them niccas didn't do their due diligence regarding business transactions.
Cilva is in Moroco living nicely.
Rza copped thay nill.
The Wu got plenty press from that shyt.
 
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