Wu-Tang - A Better Tomorrow (12/2/14) - Album Discussion Thread(Stream)

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I don't really see the off beat sh!t other than the Ruckus In B Minor track. And if you notice it anywhere else it probably has more to do with these vocals being sent via cyberspace, back and forth in e-mails, rather than actually being recorded in the studio with the producers and sound team. Ghost still performing at a high quality.

Ghost is the most consistent member of Wu Tang. You can always rely on him to give you a quality album.
 

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Ghost is the most consistent member of Wu Tang. You can always rely on him to give you a quality album.

ALWAYS. I'd say his most hated on album was Wizard of Poetry (hated on unfairly btw) and that album is leagues above most rappers best. For some dudes to claim that Ghost has fallen off is laughable to me. He may not sound in sync on some of his recent appearances on tracks but like I said that most likely has to do with e-mailed verses.
 

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I know this is only a few quotes from RZA in this recent interview but it sounds like he's fed up with certain members not being behind projects that committed to:

"There was a lot of opposition within the Wu-Tang circle to doing the album… I'll level with you, the chemistry's not all that good right now," RZA said. "We've all done this long enough to know this process isn't just like, you make an album, then that's that. It's like a presidential campaign. You don't just make the policies then sit back. You create your platform, then you gotta take it to out to the people.

"It's like there's an energy in the group that stops people enjoying their own success. They gotta sabotage it (
Shots fired at Ghost and Rae? :lolbron:)" RZA went on to liken the album to a child that "comes out with one arm. You gonna love that child, make the best out of that situation and help it have the best life it can." :mjcry:

http://www.nme.com/news/wu-tang-clan-0/81876

I can't even front, if I was RZA I woulda stopped fvcking with these n!ggas a long time ago. Having only 4 other members (the least popular btw, Uey, Masta Killa, Deck and Cappa) show up for video shoots and promotion a few weeks back was probably the saddest Wu related sh!t I seen in a minute.
 

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I know this is only a few quotes from RZA in this recent interview but it sounds like he's fed up with certain members not being behind projects that committed to:

"There was a lot of opposition within the Wu-Tang circle to doing the album… I'll level with you, the chemistry's not all that good right now," RZA said. "We've all done this long enough to know this process isn't just like, you make an album, then that's that. It's like a presidential campaign. You don't just make the policies then sit back. You create your platform, then you gotta take it to out to the people.

"It's like there's an energy in the group that stops people enjoying their own success. They gotta sabotage it (
Shots fired at Ghost and Rae? :lolbron:)" RZA went on to liken the album to a child that "comes out with one arm. You gonna love that child, make the best out of that situation and help it have the best life it can." :mjcry:

http://www.nme.com/news/wu-tang-clan-0/81876

I can't even front, if I was RZA I woulda stopped fvcking with these n!ggas a long time ago. Having only 4 other members (the least popular btw, Uey, Masta Killa, Deck and Cappa) show up for video shoots and promotion a few weeks back was probably the saddest Wu related sh!t I seen in a minute.

The way that Meth and Ghost shyt on the album in its release week was terrible. You've got Meth taking the piss saying it's 'RZA's album' on Instagram and Ghost said something along the lines of he'd not even heard the album at all. :beli:
 

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I like how all but two tracks have at least four verses...whereas the W for example only had 4 tracks with that many verses.
 

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I know this is only a few quotes from RZA in this recent interview but it sounds like he's fed up with certain members not being behind projects that committed to:

"There was a lot of opposition within the Wu-Tang circle to doing the album… I'll level with you, the chemistry's not all that good right now," RZA said. "We've all done this long enough to know this process isn't just like, you make an album, then that's that. It's like a presidential campaign. You don't just make the policies then sit back. You create your platform, then you gotta take it to out to the people.

"It's like there's an energy in the group that stops people enjoying their own success. They gotta sabotage it (
Shots fired at Ghost and Rae? :lolbron:)" RZA went on to liken the album to a child that "comes out with one arm. You gonna love that child, make the best out of that situation and help it have the best life it can." :mjcry:

http://www.nme.com/news/wu-tang-clan-0/81876

I can't even front, if I was RZA I woulda stopped fvcking with these n!ggas a long time ago. Having only 4 other members (the least popular btw, Uey, Masta Killa, Deck and Cappa) show up for video shoots and promotion a few weeks back was probably the saddest Wu related sh!t I seen in a minute.
Yeah as a Wu fan, all the background shyt really leaves a sour taste to me. I actually enjoy the album too, but the way it came about is just depressing. Seeing Rza try so hard over the last two years to pull them together for one last album and hearing certain members fight against it and complain throughout the whole process, it's just sad. It even fukks up my enjoyment of the album.
 

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Yeah as a Wu fan, all the background shyt really leaves a sour taste to me. I actually enjoy the album too, but the way it came about is just depressing. Seeing Rza try so hard over the last two years to pull them together for one last album and hearing certain members fight against it and complain throughout the whole process, it's just sad. It even fukks up my enjoyment of the album.

Yea, it does kinda take away a little bit from my enjoyment of the album. The behind the scenes bullsh!t with the Wu is just :sad:
 

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RZA should focus some time to creating another group, with younger/hungrier emcees committed to work on the full scale. I doubt it would exceed the classics, but i bet some dope music would come out of it :manny:
 

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Should got that Drake stimulus package when they got the chance... :heh:

I'm a Wu stan....but this album is sorta weak....I don't know...I've only listened to it once all the way through....so ill give it some more spins.....but IDK....its not coalescing the way it normally does......even when one rapper is talking about the streets and another is on some uplifting stuff on the same track, it usually works....but this time around its a bit out of sync.....but like I said, I only listened once..... I wish it had done better on that first week......makes me sad :mjcry: ....... nonetheless they'll be fine...

But waiting for the next group album...:lupe:
 

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I know that when I refer to "grown", I'm referring to how mellow they are on this album. It's mostly calm, laid back, introspective. There's hard;y any cursing on the album, as well. If I could allude to anything, I'd say if Wu-Forever was the young activist, this is the older teacher. That's what I feel from this album.

Everyone keeps mentioning the hook to Miracle, it's not THAT bad. You can tolerate it, and if that hook is taking you out of the album, it's really a shame. Hell, every verse and the beat is great and doesn't clash. I can't force this album on anyone, and I won't try. I actually randomly put it on, and hour ago and was vibing to it. I haven't went back to Ghost. And that has some less than stellar hooks as well.

As for the Clan, I really don't care about their bickering and complaining. They've always been a grumpy bunch, and video shoots and tour appearances were always a crap shoot. I wish more would support this instead of the trash that's favored today.

As for Ghost, he's lost a step. He's gone from colorful and witty to generic thug rapper.
 
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yes, what a fantastic lyric. you don't hear the titanic referenced enough. i heard it sunk?
You're being facetious:patrice:
...@Billy Ocean, it's ashamed how the WuGawds sabotage their own Abbott:lupe:

But I'll Never Let Go of the clan:yeshrug:
 
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