There is no Wu-Tang without RZA. Literally and figuratively I don't understand why people think you could actually have a Wu-Tang album without RZA, for better or for worse the Wu as a group are spearheaded by The Abbot....
Wu-Tang - A Better Tomorrow (12/2/14) - Album Discussion Thread(Stream)
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There is no Wu-Tang without RZA. Literally and figuratively I don't understand why people think you could actually have a Wu-Tang album without RZA, for better or for worse the Wu as a group are spearheaded by The Abbot....
I know what you mean, but its like a watching a coach who has the best players in the league but he doesnt know how to lead them to a championship. Who knows what would be created out of that energy of rebellion.
If it was shaolin vs wu tang he would still be a part of it but as motivation
So in essence hes still there just in a different form
Might just have to turn this on toward the end...can't deal with these struggle jokes
ZEB WALTON
ayo! - BEZ
gza killed every verse ive heard from him, like hes back or some shyt
ugod sounds ill, rae too
the production sounds better than my work speakers made them sound. i think this shyt might be the best wu album since forever. the productiom sounds next level. MIRACLE!!!
preacher man diont sound THAT bad. if odb did that hook it woulda been some commericla esque wu.
a better tomorrow and mircacle sound like my favs
ugod sounds ill, rae too
the production sounds better than my work speakers made them sound. i think this shyt might be the best wu album since forever. the productiom sounds next level. MIRACLE!!!
preacher man diont sound THAT bad. if odb did that hook it woulda been some commericla esque wu.
a better tomorrow and mircacle sound like my favs
They're up on Letterman after these commercials...
Happy to hear that
Ghost and Rae didn't show up at Letterman, and Meth looked like he didn't wanna be there but it still was a good performance, imo.
ZEB WALTON
ayo! - BEZ
sounds like liquid swords gza, just hes using more science talk now. but he hasnt been all over a wu album like this since 36. he slays every single verse. idk how to take meth on this album yet.but honest to god this sounds like a wu album in 2014. not as dark but def wu esque. some of thesebeat change ups are ridicuklous. The rza took that critisicm to heart imo cause these beatys sound ridic.
ZEB WALTON
ayo! - BEZ
gza either. the crowd was all old white people. i wouldnt have wanted to be there lol
It's funny cause when I first heard it with rza singing the hook, I was likeWhen a nikka put his own bread on the line, what can you say?
. When ghost came in after though it made more sense. Now I when I play it I'm fukking 
every time. Seems they were just having fun in the studio. Wu fans always take shyt too fukking seriouslySo rza put up the bread so he could pay Rae independently from the rest out of his own pocket? If you don't fukk with the final product then cool but I think how rza went about making the product, having to campaign publicly to make the shyt even fukking happen and paying Nikkas out his own pocket then he has the right to do what the fukk he wants and people should appreciate that an albums even coming out at this point with all the effort he put in. Rae's one of my all time favourites but I don't fukk with how he moved with this album. Nikkas wanna talk that brother shyt but wanna hold their brothers to ransom for paper. Rae talking about he wants a bigger voice in the direction of the album when rza the only one putting his hand in his pocket to make the album happen.
I like what he said about the al green session band- why sample them dudes like they've done numerous times when they've got the bread to bring those dudes in make their own original music like al, willie mitchell and them did back in the days? Probably end up paying more to sample them Nikkas anyway and with no one else putting their hand in their pocket what would be the point?
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We did. It was called "Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang." And repurposed as a Raekwon solo, because Raekwon has no fukking clue how to produce a Wu-Tang Clan album.
In fact, none of the other Wu-Tang Clan members have the ability or the interest or the money or the work ethic to produce a Wu-Tang Clan album.
The only member who makes Wu-Tang Clan albums happen is The RZA.
Whom you refer to as "dead weight."
Your post is stupid.
No RZA, no Wu-Tang albums.
You're basically complaining because RZA is not catering his music to your every personal whim, and imagining a fantasy world where Raekwon is a competent producer.
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