Wrestling fans like the SS crowd and last night on RAW are what's worse for the business

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Vince can't win with those b*stards. He gives all they Indy heroes/vanilla midgets shine n they STILL complain. I hope Vince goes back to pushing hosses just to spite em

This argument is outdated lol their main champion is a hoss and is loved by the majority of the fan base

I think WWE has just earned the reputation of being lazy storytelling department (outside of NXT/Takeovers). The show seems so formulaic that the fans would rather pay money just to be apart of a wacky crowd. WWE should be taking this crowd as an indictment on the product but we all know Vince will shrug it off. Meanwhile, network subscriptions and ratings continue to drop. I give HHH props dude is definitely the Diddy of wrestling but he might be the only member of management at Titan that understands their current (active) part of their fan base.
 

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Vince can't win with those b*stards. He gives all they Indy heroes/vanilla midgets shine n they STILL complain. I hope Vince goes back to pushing hosses just to spite em

Who do u think pays the money and buys all the tickets subsidizing WWE's fiscal year? Vince doesn't cater to the hardcore audience because he wanna, it's because he has to.
 

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ah see I have u questioning why u came in here. People can do whatever the hell they want, they paid the money to be there. I agree with u on that. But that doesn't mean they are above criticism. My take is that they are part of the problem. I think creative has a lot of issues and I think these type of fans don't really know what they want. So around and around it goes...

Remember that troll CM Punk raw in Chicago in 2014? They booked a genius show in front of that crowd. Vince was a master manipulator like he was in the old days. Why couldn't they do it again? In a fake show, the writer has all of the power.
 

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3 hour Raw and 5 hour Summerslam which both sucked both in the same building is to blame. This shyt didn't happen when Summerslam was in Boston on Sunday and Connecticut on Monday
 
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3 hour Raw and 5 hour Summerslam which both sucked both in the same building is to blame. This shyt didn't happen when Summerslam was in Boston on Sunday and Connecticut on Monday

SS didn't suck from any metric that I would use. Were the matches good in my view? yes. Did they waste time on backstage nonsense? no. Finishes were clean? yep.
 

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A lot of Cokeboy apologists in this thread

People paid money, they can complain all they want

It's not about Cokeboy being in the right, but moreso fans being complete dikks at the arena. It's like folks going to see a movie and some dudes decide to throw a Frisbee in the front of the screen. It's obnoxious as hell. No different from a alright tag match getting interrupted by that friggin beachball. Sure, the fans pay top dollar to attend the event, but it doesn't excuse them from doing lame stuff for attention.

This is why NJPW make sure that shyt is squashed before the tickets hit the street:mjlol:
 

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Best thing they did was give the standing ovation for when Miz said "How many moments do you two get? Honestly?!" That reaction felt organic and it's a question EVERYONE keeps asking every fukking week and every month. 3 str8 Roman WM main events? Cena being kept from getting rolled over by Reigns for nearly 5 years now? WTF...it's SO TRANSPARENT and weak.
Shhhh don't let them hear that...smarks aren't allowed to have minds of their own
 
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