Would you trade Ben Simmons For Jayson Tatum if you're Philly?

[Killer Instinct]

nope...Ben is special and thats not to say Tatum isn't but Ben isn't the type of player you give up on unless he keeps having recurring foot issues...He's a generational talent...MYGM wouldn't even allow the 76ers to do that trade you would have to force a trade override.

 

[CrimsonTider]

The only reason this is even a discussion is cause Ben refuses to learn how to shoot the 3. He got the mid going this offseason but the second he becomes even a 30% 3 pt shooter, there’s not a wing in his league

 

[CrimsonTider]

At the time of this thread… this was still a legitimate question. Simmons is a joke now but up until that Atlanta series he was giving you 16 10 with elite defense/playmaking.

Tatum is obviously the better player now but some of y’all acting like this wasn’t a debate in 2018.

He was always a joke

 

[Paper Boi]

 

[CrimsonTider]

TBH, Ben Simmons really was a generational talent, he just didn't have the mental game to maximize it.

You can't name five players who had his combination of height, body control, and court awareness. 6'10" and a smooth ballhandler with the ability to see the court and defend the perimeter at an elite level.....that's a RARE combination. Put Magic, Kidd, or Bron's mind in the same body and he'd have won titles and MVPs with Embiid on some Magic-Kareem or Bron-AD shyt.

Ben Simmons is not good at basketball

 

[ThaBoyBam]

I'm capable of looking beyond the scope of one or two games and looking at their skill-sets and total output in both their seasons and it's pretty clear. If I was a reactionary casual sure I'd look at that one game/series and take a hard-line stance one way or the other. I'm not hence my arrogance. By all means continue to use that game as the barometer of their careers going forward I'm sure it will stop the mass amount of future individual accolades coming Ben's way

 

[Goat poster]

At the time of this thread… this was still a legitimate question. Simmons is a joke now but up until that Atlanta series he was giving you 16 10 with elite defense/playmaking.

Tatum is obviously the better player now but some of y’all acting like this wasn’t a debate in 2018.

I'm proud to have never been on the Simmons bandwagon.

I was early on calling him out for not shooting

Cats on this very site would argue me down .

Simmons has never been better than Tatum and this is coming from someone who has always been on the Brown>>Tatum bandwagon.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Sim

I'm proud to have never been on the Simmons bandwagon.

I was early on calling him out for not shooting

Cats on this very site would argue me down .

Simmons has never been better than Tatum and this is coming from someone who has always been on the Brown>>Tatum bandwagon.

Simmons defense wasn’t elite either.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Ben Simmons is not good at basketball

By the age of 24, Simmons had already won Rookie of the Year, 3-time All-Star, 2-time All-Defensive, 1-time All-NBA, and finished 2nd in DPOY voting.

As a rookie he averaged 16-8-8 on 55% shooting with nearly 2 steals a game and won Rookie of the Year.
In 2019 he averaged 17-9-8 on 56% shooting and made the All-Star team.
In 2020 he averaged 16-8-8 on 58% shooting, led the league in steals, made 1st-team All-Defensive, 3rd-team All-NBA, All-Star, and finished 4th in DPOY voting.
In 2021 he averaged 14-7-7 on 56% shooting, All-Star, 1st-team All-Defensive, 2nd in DPOY voting, and got an MVP vote.

He also advanced to the ECSF in 3 out of 4 seasons, with career playoff averages of 14-8-8 on 57% shooting.

Before the injuries and mental issues, he was on a clear path for a Hall of Fame career. You were talking about someone on pace for 10 or more All-Star games, numerous All-Defensive selections, a handful of All-NBA teams, and might have snuck a DPOY at some point. He had ELITE talent as an NBA player before his mind and body collapsed on him.

 

[NatiboyB]

Am I wrong? Who would of suspected dude was the nba version of a grifter.

 

[CrimsonTider]

By the age of 24, Simmons had already won Rookie of the Year, 3-time All-Star, 2-time All-Defensive, 1-time All-NBA, and finished 2nd in DPOY voting.

As a rookie he averaged 16-8-8 on 55% shooting with nearly 2 steals a game and won Rookie of the Year.
In 2019 he averaged 17-9-8 on 56% shooting and made the All-Star team.
In 2020 he averaged 16-8-8 on 58% shooting, led the league in steals, made 1st-team All-Defensive, 3rd-team All-NBA, All-Star, and finished 4th in DPOY voting.
In 2021 he averaged 14-7-7 on 56% shooting, All-Star, 1st-team All-Defensive, 2nd in DPOY voting, and got an MVP vote.

He also advanced to the ECSF in 3 out of 4 seasons, with career playoff averages of 14-8-8 on 57% shooting.

Before the injuries and mental issues, he was on a clear path for a Hall of Fame career. You were talking about someone on pace for 10 or more All-Star games, numerous All-Defensive selections, a handful of All-NBA teams, and might have snuck a DPOY at some point. He had ELITE talent as an NBA player before his mind and body collapsed on him.

A nikka that’s scared to shoot the basketball can’t be good at basketball

You can type all the novels you want to

 

[L. Deezy]

Receipt threads always make my day reading them. Ive had a couple too.. that shyt burnssssssss

 

[JoelB]

Rookie summer league Simmons was destined to be the GOAT

I hate that nikka for life

 

[Killer Instinct]

Am I wrong?

 

[CrimsonTider]

Rookie summer league Simmons was destined to be the GOAT

I hate that nikka for life

According to @Professor Emeritus he was on a HOF track before the atl series