Would you be in favor of government limits on the amount of sodium that can be put into processed food?

Salt reduction program?


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Thank you for the correction.

And that number is still significantly higher than us recommendedations.

The point still holds. :pachaha:

I think it came out that the Brits are really unhealthy and overweight ...
 

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If u need the government to put a law in place because your unhealthy fat ass cant make right choices for your LIFE and WELL BEING, then nah, let the companies keep cooking poision and the American people eat it like dummies.


Does the same argument apply to tobacco, asbestos, lead, or anything else negative that corporations put in our products? Does it apply to adults only or also the kids who are fukked over by this shyt from long before they're old enough to read?


I've noticed a ton of responses like this and they're all based on the same ignorant-ass premise. Y'all talk like psychological manipulation and addiction ain't a thing, it's all "INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY!", which sure as hell doesn't guide any of these companies.

They spend literally billions of dollars calculating how to control consumers with addictive substances, manipulative advertizing, and controlling supply and distribution chains, but you think regular-ass people with their shytty American education should be able to combat that perfectly.

If you don't want to force the corporations to stop selling poison, then at least make them liable for the costs. If these companies start having to cover the public health costs of all the health problems they cause, if they have to compensate society in exchange for their profits, then you'll see some behavior change real quick. But for some reason y'all think that corporations should only have to deal with profits from their decisions while taxpayers and society have to deal with all the costs.




Government has a monopoly on force, give it power at your peril.

What "force" is applicable here? You're just pushing right-wing slogans. Corporations have 50x more influence over the content of your food than the government does, THEY have the power right now and that's why our food is so fukking unhealthy.
 

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Monday-Friday for me.

Morning
Apple - 2mg
Almond Granola Bar - 140mg

Lunch
Turkey Meat - 540mg
Whole Wheat Bread - 220mg
Chips - 500mg
Banana - 1mg

Dinner
2 Chicken Thighs - 500ish (including seasoning salt)
Veggies - 0
Brown Rice - 500ish (salt added)

That's generally my typical meal I eat daily. That's around 2400mg of sodium. That's with a planned meal and of course there are going to be variances in my meals as well. shyt is damn near impossible to get below 2300mg a day.

Edit: I also drink a lot of water and workout a few days out of the week. I might not be getting enough salt. :jbhmm:


But my point still stands. It's too much salt in processed foods.
 
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Does the same argument apply to tobacco, asbestos, lead, or anything else negative that corporations put in our products? Does it apply to adults only or also the kids who are fukked over by this shyt from long before they're old enough to read?


I've noticed a ton of responses like this and they're all based on the same ignorant-ass premise. Y'all talk like psychological manipulation and addiction ain't a thing, it's all "INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY!", which sure as hell doesn't guide any of these companies.

They spend literally billions of dollars calculating how to control consumers with addictive substances, manipulative advertizing, and controlling supply and distribution chains, but you think regular-ass people with their shytty American education should be able to combat that perfectly.

If you don't want to force the corporations to stop selling poison, then at least make them liable for the costs. If these companies start having to cover the public health costs of all the health problems they cause, if they have to compensate society in exchange for their profits, then you'll see some behavior change real quick. But for some reason y'all think that corporations should only have to deal with profits from their decisions while taxpayers and society have to deal with all the costs.






What "force" is applicable here? You're just pushing right-wing slogans. Corporations have 50x more influence over the content of your food than the government does, THEY have the power right now and that's why our food is so fukking unhealthy.

Then read the fukking labels on what youre eating. Or is that too much for the typical lazy ass american? :dahell:


I eat 90% clean. I never had any health issues. I cleaned up my act when i was in my 20s. I see nikkas i went to high scool with my age suffereing from all types of health related issues. I see patients my age or younger at my job looking like shyt and eating like shyt while they in the damn hospital.


The information is out there. Its 2022. If u too stupid not to change your health and need the government to hold your hand then u deserve whatever bad shyt comes your way. If parents want to feed their kids bad shyt then thats on them.


At some point, the consumers and individuals need to be held accountable for their own actions. Everyone know how bad fast food is yet theres nikkas lined up at a McDonalds drive through. You out here calling my responses ignorant yet u got dumbfukks killing themselves slowly over food with the knowldge of whats bad and good for them. fukk them if they continue to eat that shyt. Thats on them. They keep these companies in business and they will continue to feed them nasty shyt so long as they make a profit. You seem like one of them "heal the world" type of nikkas who wants to guide everyones hands down the right path. That shyt is weak. At some point, u gotta let folks do they own thing and walk on their own. Again, the information is out there for everyone. Its 2022, not 1980s. Each individual is reaponsible for what they eat. Aint nobody forcing anyone to eat like shyt
 
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Yup. Wehn i started looking at labels i was like got damn at a lot of the salt and sugar contents on regular shyt that a large amount of people will run through in a day or two.

1 Snapple bottle is 100% DV for sugar:picard:then you got the mfs that let they kids have whatever and never tell them no
 

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Then read the fukking labels on what youre eating. Or is that too much for the typical lazy ass american? :dahell:


I eat 90% clean. I never had any health issues. I cleaned up my act when i was in my 20s. I see nikkas i went to high scool with my age suffereing from all types of health related issues. I see patients my age or younger at my job looking like shyt and eating like shyt while they in the damn hospital.


The information is out there. Its 2022. If u too stupid not to change your health and need the government to hold your hand then u deserve whatever bad shyt comes your way. If parents want to feed their kids bad shyt then thats on them.


At some point, the consumers and individuals need to be held accountable for their own actions. Everyone know how bad fast food is yet theres nikkas lined up at a McDonalds drive through. You out here calling my responses ignorant yet u got dumbfukks killing themselves slowly over food with the knowldge of whats bad and good for them. fukk them if they continue to eat that shyt. Thats on them. They keep these companies in business and they will continue to feed them nasty shyt so long as they make a profit. You seem like one of them "heal the world" type of nikkas who wants to guide everyones hands down the right path. That shyt is weak. At some point, u gotta let folks do they own thing and walk on their own. Again, the information is out there for everyone. Its 2022, not 1980s. Each individual is reaponsible for what they eat. Aint nobody forcing anyone to eat like shyt



Nearly everyone gets addicted to junk food and unhealthy eating habits when they're a kid - kids aren't going to read no labels like that. Companies purposely target children for unhealthy cereals, chips, soft drinks, candy, cookies, lunchmeat, hot dogs, fried food, sugar water, burgers, ice cream, fast food, cupcakes, donuts, and on and on, using mascots and commercials and child-targeted packaging and single-serving amounts and even in-school product placements. By the time they're old enough to know better they're already hooked, and those addictions aren't easy to break.


Plus the average American doesn't understand packaging like that. How many people on The Coli know the difference between simple carbohydrates and complex carbohydrates, what the impact is on the body and what the difference is on the label? How many grams of processed grains like white flour or white rice or corn or potato are okay in a day and how much is too much? That's not a simple question. Or let's say a bag of chips tells you it has 14% of your daily sodium. Is that too much? How do you know? Are you able to sit there and calculate every mg of salt that enters your body all day? Does the total matter if you're 120 lbs or 220 lbs? If you're 10% over your DRA is that a problem or is it only a problem if you go double? Can you splurge on one day and even it out the next day, or do you need to be under every day?

If this was just "individual responsibility" then it would be one thing, but it impacts everyone. Everybody's health care costs go up when poison is put out there, and it's by far the worst in the Black community. You think the companies should be able to keep profiting off of purposely making people unhealthy, but that the public taxpayer should cover all the costs of the consequences?
 

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Nearly everyone gets addicted to junk food and unhealthy eating habits when they're a kid - kids aren't going to read no labels like that. Companies purposely target children for unhealthy cereals, chips, soft drinks, candy, cookies, lunchmeat, hot dogs, fried food, sugar water, burgers, ice cream, fast food, cupcakes, donuts, and on and on, using mascots and commercials and child-targeted packaging and single-serving amounts and even in-school product placements. By the time they're old enough to know better they're already hooked, and those addictions aren't easy to break.


Plus the average American doesn't understand packaging like that. How many people on The Coli know the difference between simple carbohydrates and complex carbohydrates, what the impact is on the body and what the difference is on the label? How many grams of processed grains like white flour or white rice or corn or potato are okay in a day and how much is too much? That's not a simple question. Or let's say a bag of chips tells you it has 14% of your daily sodium. Is that too much? How do you know? Are you able to sit there and calculate every mg of salt that enters your body all day? Does the total matter if you're 120 lbs or 220 lbs? If you're 10% over your DRA is that a problem or is it only a problem if you go double? Can you splurge on one day and even it out the next day, or do you need to be under every day?

If this was just "individual responsibility" then it would be one thing, but it impacts everyone. Everybody's health care costs go up when poison is put out there, and it's by far the worst in the Black community. You think the companies should be able to keep profiting off of purposely making people unhealthy, but that the public taxpayer should cover all the costs of the consequences?

If people cared about their health, they would take the same time and energy they use on tiktok and online and look up whats good and bad for u. And thats including simple and complex carbs and all that other shyt u posted. I do it. My wife does it. A few of my co-workers do it. Again, most Americans are too lazy to do shyt that matters and takes more then 2 mins to do. So yeah, lets make the lazy people become more lazier by enforcing laws that will protect them and their kids. Did u also know those same people will probably protest such a law and complain the food is being controlled by the government and they want their yummy filled snacks back? yea, thats how dumb Americans are especially when it comes to food.

I only care about people who truly want to help or better themselves. Sadly, half this nation dont even fall into that category. So this law about sodium i can give two fukks about because i can guarantee u gonna see some fat fukks on tv crying about their cheez-its tasting like cardboard box.
 
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Again, most Americans are too lazy to do shyt that matters and takes more then 2 mins to do. So yeah, lets make the lazy people become more lazier by enforcing laws that will protect them and their kids.


This sounds like right-wing bullshyt. Enforcing laws that hold corporations accountable for their actions doesn't "make the lazy people become lazier". That doesn't even make sense.




I only care about people who truly want to help or better themselves. Sadly, half this nation dont even fall into that category. So this law about sodium i can give two fukks about because i can guarantee u gonna see some fat fukks on tv crying about their cheez-its tasting like cardboard box.


And I really don't give a shyt about your personal judgments, because public health crises still affect the rest of us no matter how judgemental you are.

Obesity rates and poor eating habits are FAR worse among the Black and Latino communities than they are among White people. Do you think that's just because White people are better than Black and Brown people? You think they're just not lazy, that's the only difference?
 

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Yup. Wehn i started looking at labels i was like got damn at a lot of the salt and sugar contents on regular shyt that a large amount of people will run through in a day or two.

1 Snapple bottle is 100% DV for sugar:picard:then you got the mfs that let they kids have whatever and never tell them no


With our daughter it's:


* No candy, cookies, cakes, ice cream, or anything else with added sugar

* Basically no drinks other than water (100% juice or milk rarely as a treat)

* No chips, cheetoes, or other unhealthy snack shyt unless it's whole grain and in moderation


Even on Halloween, as we went around I switched out all her candy with healthy snacks like raisins, dried fruit, multigrain snacks, etc.


I got addicted to sugar when I was a kid and it has impacted my eating habits my whole life, I don't want her to have to deal with the same. She's 4 years old and she's had processed sugar less than 10 times in her life. Even for her birthdays we make a no-sugar-added cake with ripe bananas and apples. Since she never has processed sugar, she thinks the no-sugar stuff tastes amazing and it's a really special treat for her. And even though we're regulating it, she's learning what healthy food is too. Like if someone else gives her something she knows is unhealthy, at least half the time she gives it straight to me and tells me to get rid of it. And she's told me a couple times when I was eating something unhealthy that she wanted me to eat healthier.
 

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I really started reading labels in the grocery store last year as i began to focus on losing weight.

Almost EVERYTHING in mainstream grocery stores is either high in sugar or sodium

Yup. Which is why i laugh at nikkas crying about the government setting up something to help people eat better. Read the damn labels and know wtf u eating instead of being a blind fat ass. Once u see how shytty most items are, u learn to eat right and liv
 
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