Would you be in favor of government limits on the amount of sodium that can be put into processed food?

[Orbital-Fetus]

Nope. Let people make their own food decisions.

Yes. I can always add more salt if I want.

 

[Bboystyle]

If u need the government to put a law in place because your unhealthy fat ass cant make right choices for your LIFE and WELL BEING, then nah, let the companies keep cooking poision and the American people eat it like dummies.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Nothing about buying a El Paso Taco pack says making healthy decisions for your family.


And people should totally have the option to buy foods that have over 20% of their DV. Imagine running on banning hotdogs and hamburgers

taco seasoning is not an unhealthy food, the sodium is....and it's not something ubiquitously branded as an unhealthy food to the average buyer. why are you being obtuse here? reality is these are the things an average family uses - pre blended seasonings, pasta sauce, canned beans, lunch meat, etc.


and i just looked on oscar meyer's site, their jumbo hot dogs (bigger than the original/regular) are 19-21% of the daily value, so yea, it's quite possible to sell packaged hot dogs and frozen burger patties without 20%+ of your sodium, we do right now

 

[Pressure]

taco seasoning is not an unhealthy food, the sodium is....and it's not something ubiquitously branded as an unhealthy food to the average buyer. why are you being obtuse here? reality is these are the things an average family uses - pre blended seasonings, pasta sauce, canned beans, lunch meat, etc.


and i just looked on oscar meyer's site, their jumbo hot dogs (bigger than the original/regular) are 19-21% of the daily value, so yea, it's quite possible to sell packaged hot dogs and frozen burger patties without 20%+ of your sodium, we do right now

It takes less time to make your own taco seasoning. Just make it.

Spoiler: Or

buy the less sodium package right next to it. And that’s my whole point, there’s less sodium options of almost everything you’re complaining about sitting right next to it on the shelves. People have a choice.

nd i just looked on oscar meyer's site, their jumbo hot dogs (bigger than the original/regular) are 19-21% of the daily value, so yea, it's quite possible to sell packaged hot dogs and frozen burger patties without 20%+ of your sodium, we do right now

That’s just the wiener

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

It takes less time to make your own taco seasoning. Just make it.

Spoiler: Or

buy the less sodium package right next to it. And that’s my whole point, there’s less sodium options of almost everything you’re complaining about sitting right next to it on the shelves. People have a choice.

That’s just the wiener

now everyone is supposed to make every seasoning blend from scratch never stops with you...please don't ever complain about anyone else on this board having idealistic proposals. none of what you're arguing represents the reality of the average consumer

which was my proposal - PER ITEM (or serving)....you don't need a serving of soup being 40% of sodium, you don't need a hot dog weiner being 30% of sodium, now what the sodium adds up to when individual pieces are put together at mcdonald's (burger patty + bun + cheese slice) that's going to be variable, but if we start by limiting sodium in each serving of individual ingredients, that's a very realistic and doable thing.

 

[Pressure]

which was my proposal - PER ITEM (or serving)....you don't need a serving of soup being 40% of sodium, you don't need a hot dog weiner being 30% of sodium, now what the sodium adds up to when individual pieces are put together at mcdonald's (burger patty + bun + cheese slice) that's going to be variable, but if we start by limiting sodium in each serving of individual ingredients, that's a very realistic and doable thing.

I agree with the idea that it will offer benefits.

I wholly support low and less sodium products.

I'm just okay with giving folks the option to pick healthier items or pick shytty items.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I agree with the idea that it will offer benefits.

I wholly support low and less sodium products.

I'm just okay with giving folks the option to pick healthier items or pick shytty items.

i'm for making all things less shytty, it's undeniable the processed food revolution and our manufacturing standards over the year has led to the soaring rise of metabolic conditions, the shyt needs to be capped.

 

[Pressure]

i'm for making all things less shytty, it's undeniable the processed food revolution and our manufacturing standards over the year has led to the soaring rise of metabolic conditions, the shyt needs to be capped.

I think you can make processed foods less shytty, but much of the problem still comes down to food choice.

When people are getting more than half of their meals from highly processed foods I think we're just ignoring the elephant in the room.

Cut back on the junk.

 

[Pressure]

Anyway, good topic.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I think you can make processed foods less shytty, but much of the problem still comes down to food choice.

When people are getting more than half of their meals from highly processed foods I think we're just ignoring the elephant in the room.

Cut back on the junk.

this is always easy to say, and then we have food deserts that persist, stores that charge exorbitant prices for produce or offer shytty produce laden with pesticides and other BS in the hood and rural areas, zero food education and terrible access to health care (and a health care system that does not educate you on this, no time in life has a doctor mentioned how many mg of salt i should intake, just the generic "limit salt intake, drink water, exercise") now take into account i'm educated with resources at my disposal and prone to researching things myself - that is not the average american, let's stop acting like we can't do better to support the average and that everyone has to excel in all aspects of life in order to make day to day decisions.

 

[Pressure]

this is always easy to say, and then we have food deserts that persist, stores that charge exorbitant prices for produce or offer shytty produce laden with pesticides and other BS in the hood and rural areas, zero food education and terrible access to health care (and a health care system that does not educate you on this, no time in life has a doctor mentioned how many mg of salt i should intake, just the generic "limit salt intake, drink water, exercise") now take into account i'm educated with resources at my disposal and prone to researching things myself - that is not the average american, let's stop acting like we can't do better to support the average and that everyone has to excel in all aspects of life in order to make day to day decisions.

I think fixing food desserts should be a priory and removing Americans over reliance on processed food should also be a priority.

I obviously think that solution would provide a better outcome for Americans as a whole.

I also think American healthcare can be better. We should fix it.

I also think people can drink beer and eat chicken friend steak with gravy if it makes them happy. ‍♂

End of the day these issues to me are just symptoms of a larger problem. A problem I think begins with the idea that doing normal things are difficult -- difficult because we don't teach people shyt and expect them to use and retain that knowledge.

I entered this thread making two statements:

How hard is it to read a food label?
How hard is it cook some of your meals?

 

[acri1]

I think fixing food desserts should be a priory and removing Americans over reliance on processed food should also be a priority.

I obviously think that solution would provide a better outcome for Americans as a whole.

I also think American healthcare can be better. We should fix it.

I also think people can drink beer and eat chicken friend steak with gravy if it makes them happy. ‍♂

End of the day these issues to me are just symptoms of a larger problem. A problem I think begins with the idea that doing normal things are difficult -- difficult because we don't teach people shyt and expect them to use and retain that knowledge.

I entered this thread making two statements:

How hard is it to read a food label?
How hard is it cook some of your meals?

All that sounds great, but realistically everybody isn't going to cook all the time it's just not going to happen

So if there's a way to make processed foods less bad, I don't see how that's not a good thing. I mean they banned trans fats (mostly), some people whined about it at the time, but eventually heart disease rates started going down and everybody adjusted. And I'm sure the national ban on trans fats is going to cause a longer term drop in heart attacks that we'll hear about in 10 or 20 years. I don't see how policy like that isn't a win.

Removing Trans Fats from Restaurant Menus Associated with Drop in Heart Attacks and Strokes

Does a public health measure such as restricting trans fats from restaurant menus really make a difference? A study published April 12th in JAMA Cardiology nods yes. Between 2007 and 2011, 11 New Y…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

So I don't see how sodium limits are any different. If it can be done voluntarily that's great but if not then limits seem like a good policy.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

How hard is it to read a food label?
How hard is it cook some of your meals?

and i've addressed how even reading and cooking, sodium stacks up as each individual ingredient has too much of it down to injecting salt into packaged meat. so yes, it's time to limit what can be put into food knowing that items are just components of a bigger meal (and daily diet) that can easily exceed 2300mg.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

im fine with it as long as it doesnt ban things that have to be salty, like salted fish or saladitos. there's ethnic cuisine that needs those kinds of foods.

Of course they will. Give the state an inch, they take a mile.

 

[Pure Water]

1000%. I don't even buy processed food like that anymore because of how much sodium is in the food.