Would the world be better if we all subscribed to Evolution and Religion did not exist?

[Stone Cold]

No it wouldn't. You seem to believe that religion and science function in terms of a dichotomy, you are wrong. The structures that our societies are founded on and our ethical and moral mores do not stem exclusively from religion. You take away religion, the courts still exist, the apparatus of state that were explicitly separated from religion still exist. Religion may have played a fundamental role in the founding of these principles in a societal context but they became self-sustaining centuries ago.

If this was the case then secular communities would be untenable and this is clearly not the case.

Science would not have to do anything, there isn't any person or any society that claims to live their lives in accordance with science atheist or not. It isn't in competition with religion except in the minds of those that question it under false pretenses.

I think you misunderstood the question(that might be my fault). If religion never existed, would any of that exist?

If religion never existed and theory of evolution was true and everyone subscribed to it, would the world be a better place?

 

[noon]

If religion never existed and theory of evolution was true and everyone subscribed to it, would the world be a better place?

Surely it would make a difference. We'd have more people be curious about how things work than assuming they know the answers because a book told them. We'd have more engineers. We'd get more shyt done.

 

[BlvdBrawler]

The Theory of Evolution CAN legitimately be used to justify racism when applied literally.

My man do you know what the theory of evolution is?

 

[Stone Cold]

My man do you know what the theory of evolution is?

My man do you know what evolution by natural selection is?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Darwin viewed black people as lower on the evolutionary scale, so we'd be fukked if the rest of the world took to Evolution with the same fervor as they do Religion.

Darwin was wrong about some aspects of evolution...and issac newton believed in parts of alchemy...what your point?

Discoveries are made not because of who makes them, but because they're true independent of who discovers it.

 

[Greenstrings]

I think you misunderstood the question(that might be my fault). If religion never existed, would any of that exist?

If religion never existed and theory of evolution was true and everyone subscribed to it, would the world be a better place?

I didn't misunderstand the question, I know what you're getting at but this is the best way to help you understand why the question makes no sense.

Asking what would life be like if religion never existed is the same as asking what the world would be like if human beings were fundamentally different in their historic makeup.

Once you have excised something as integral to human history as religion it is impossible to then make any kind of reasonable assumptions about what anything would be like. You can't change one thing and assume that everything else about us remains the same. There are far too many variables.

Is that to say I think morality could not exist in a hypothetical world in which humans did not derive meaning from faith? No, we observe altruistic behaviour in animals and we know that they are not capable of expressing faith.

There's nothing to say that the absence of religion means that people have to prescribe to evolutionary theory. There are atheists that don't accept it and there are religious people that do. You do not seem to be getting this; they are not diametrically opposed.

 

[Stone Cold]

Surely it would make a difference. We'd have more people be curious about how things work than assuming they know the answers because a book told them. We'd have more engineers. We'd get more shyt done.

How so? without religion there would be no scientific method, Newtonian physics, and electricity

 

[noon]

How so? without religion there would be no scientific method, Newtonian physics, and electricity

You don't think we'd have tried finding stuff out without religion? They've been doing that for centuries before the church had people working for them.

 

[Stone Cold]

I didn't misunderstand the question, I know what you're getting at but this is the best way to help you understand why the question makes no sense.

Asking what would life be like if religion never existed is the same as asking what the world would be like if human beings were fundamentally different in their historic makeup.

Once you have excised something as integral to human history as religion it is impossible to then make any kind of reasonable assumptions about what anything would be like. You can't change one thing and assume that everything else about us remains the same. There are far too many variables.

Is that to say I think morality could not exist in a hypothetical world in which humans did not derive meaning from faith? No, we observe altruistic behaviour in animals and we know that they are not capable of expressing faith.

There's nothing to say that the absence of religion means that people have to prescribe to evolutionary theory. There are atheists that don't accept it and there are religious people that do. You do not seem to be getting this; they are not diametrically opposed.

Exactly. It doesn't make sense.

"I wish religion never existed" "The world would be a better place without religion" is Atheist rhetoric

 

[Stone Cold]

You don't think we'd have tried finding stuff out without religion? They've been doing that for centuries before the church had people working for them.

Why would they bother finding stuff out without religion unless it had something to do with basic survival?

 

[noon]

Why would they bother finding stuff out without religion unless it had something to do with basic survival?

Haha, I don't know what you think society would be like without religion. Like we'd all still be in caves without morality or something.

 

[Greenstrings]

Exactly. It doesn't make sense.

"I wish religion never existed" "The world would be a better place without religion" is Atheist rhetoric

Yes, a lot of atheists agree with that sentiment and they are misguided. Religion cannot be deemed an unmitigated force for good or evil because it is impossible to parse out the extents to which religion tames or exacerbates both altruistic and malevolent behaviour.

 

[BlvdBrawler]

My man do you know what evolution by natural selection is?

How so? without religion there would be no scientific method, Newtonian physics, and electricity

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[Stone Cold]

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