Would Obama Be Elevated to MLK/Garvey/Tubman Status if he Ended the War On Drugs?

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Actually, drugs can be extremely positive and life altering (for the better). There are other drugs that are extremely bad.

Freeing millions from jail that shouldn't be there would be a great benefit.

College students who catch a weed charge are denied financial aid.

An entire new industry would be created.

Cops can focus on more harmful things.

There are A LOT of benefits. (or "advancements")

For every thing you mention, there's an alternate side.

-Those millions in jail might have a good percentage who belong in jail, you`d have to go case by case, but we can all agree on the fact the Rockerfeller drug laws and all that shyt was bs.

-Never knew about the college kids, that's interesting

-I`m totally with the new industry, that's why i`m pro-legalization and I do agree that there are benefits.

The problems was some idiot compared weed being legal to the progresses of people like MLK and Harriet Tubman.

Weed also has a lot of young people who are just fukking burnouts with zero ambition and accomplish nothing because they're hooked on weed.
 
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Why the hell should America ever consider legalizing anything harder than marijuana if that at all? Would the world & America really be better if it was legal to buy heroin cocaine et cetera in the US? And please spare me the rhetoric of associating alcohol to heroin cocaine meth and other drugs. You guys are worse than the fukking hippies that were in the past let alone the hippies of the day.

Some drugs should be prohibited.



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For every thing you mention, there's an alternate side.

-Those millions in jail might have a good percentage who belong in jail, you`d have to go case by case, but we can all agree on the fact the Rockerfeller drug laws and all that shyt was bs.

-Never knew about the college kids, that's interesting

-I`m totally with the new industry, that's why i`m pro-legalization and I do agree that there are benefits.

The problems was some idiot compared weed being legal to the progresses of people like MLK and Harriet Tubman.

Weed also has a lot of young people who are just fukking burnouts with zero ambition and accomplish nothing because they're hooked on weed.
Yeah, thats pretty fukking stupid.

They don't accomplish anything not because of weed. But because they're fukking losers. I also bet those same people drink alcohol as well, but I don't see anyone blaming their inadequacies on alcohol.

The weed causing people to not be ambitious has been debunked for a long time now.

There are plenty of extremely ambitious and successful potheads out there.

You can't just say that people who get locked up on non-violent drug charges probably deserve to be in jail anyway.

Have you seen our incarceration rates? It's not because the US just has a fukkton of criminals who deserve to be in jail. It's because of our draconian drug laws.
 

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Why the hell should America ever consider legalizing anything harder than marijuana if that at all? Would the world & America really be better if it was legal to buy heroin cocaine et cetera in the US? And please spare me the rhetoric of associating alcohol to heroin cocaine meth and other drugs. You guys are worse than the fukking hippies that were in the past let alone the hippies of the day.

Some drugs should be prohibited.



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There is a very strong argument to be made for legalizing all drugs. But I understand that this completely mind fukks the vast majority of the population due to the conditioning we've received growing up in an anti-drug puritanical culture (funny that our culture is so puritain but behind closed doors, everyone is getting FOLDED)

What is the purpose of prohibiting certain drugs? To decrease use?

Now let me ask you, does prohibiting certain drugs ACTUALLY DECREASE use?

Funny enough, it's actually the opposite, it increases use. You can see this in countries with decriminalization or more lax drug laws. They have much lower instances of drug use and children start using drugs at a much later age compared with the United States.

many of the results of prohibiting a drug in reality are:

1. Increased drug use
2. Massive increase in arrests/prison population
3. Creation of a black market for these drugs, causing the drugs to become WAY WAY WAY more dangerous because people cut the drugs with other harmful shyt. You can even see this back during Alcohol prohibition where people were dying from alcohol cut with formaldehyde and other crazy ass shyt.
4. Less help for people with addictions
5. Funding for gangs who profit off these illegal drugs
6. Massive massive increase in the MARKET PRICE of drugs due to the RISK involved in selling. Which in turn increases the profits for these gangs
7. The profit involved in selling these drugs make them worth KILLING over or perpetrating violence. Which increases the crimerate even further.
8. The government and people deliberately release misleading information about drugs, which causes people to make a misinformed decision.


I think prohibition does more harm than good, but maybe that is just me.

You don't need to have a drug labeled as "illegal" to discourage it's use. Cigarettes aren't illegal and cigarette use has gone down 15% in America. It's all about education.
 

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Well you said Leader of this country > anything else

T/S was talking about black leaders; will/would President Obama be on their level or higher. I'm assuming he meant in the black community. That's why I said he already will because he accomplished more. Being President> whatever else to no disrespect to those others accomplishments
 
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T/S was talking about black leaders; will/would President Obama be on their level or higher. I'm assuming he meant in the black community. That's why I said he already will because he accomplished more. Being President> whatever else to no disrespect to those others accomplishments

I don't think that's true though, because being President is just a title, it's what you do when you get there that matters, and he has been virtually identical to be corrupt b*stards to come before him.
 

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I don't think that's true though, because being President is just a title, it's what you do when you get there that matters, and he has been virtually identical to be corrupt b*stards to come before him.

To each's own but that's one hell of a title. I'm sure those other guys weren't as squeaky clean, I know Malcolm and Martin wasn't. There may never ever be another black president, that alone makes him >>>>
 

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You seem not to get it at all. You voted for Obama expecting change and hope and you can't see the gradual change of individual rights and freedoms being taken away by his administration. It would have been the same for Romney or any other bloods and crips representative. There are only like 5 congressmen that actually don't buy into this crap and they are totally ignored by voters and the media.

Keep that wishful thinking.

So if there are 5 how come that can't turn into 10, than 15,etc.? I'm not saying in the next four years but maybe the next 30. The same time it took to build the jail and military industrial complexes?
And really you have no idea what I was expecting. Keep your assumptions to yourself. The real pie in the sky 'wishful thinking' is a different party actually winning any office of significance, but I'll let you do you.
 

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Why the hell should America ever consider legalizing anything harder than marijuana if that at all? Would the world & America really be better if it was legal to buy heroin cocaine et cetera in the US? And please spare me the rhetoric of associating alcohol to heroin cocaine meth and other drugs. You guys are worse than the fukking hippies that were in the past let alone the hippies of the day.

Some drugs should be prohibited.



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Because the current system has been working great right?

It's not necessarily a case of legalizing things but decriminalization.

It's been working in Portugal
Over a decade has passed since Portugal changed its philosophy from labeling drug users as criminals to labeling them as people affected by a disease. This time lapse has allowed statistics to develop and in time, has made Portugal an example to follow.
First, some clarification.
Portugal's move to decriminalize does not mean people can carry around, use, and sell drugs free from police interference. That would be legalization. Rather, all drugs are "decriminalized," meaning drug possession, distribution, and use is still illegal. While distribution and trafficking is still a criminal offense, possession and use is moved out of criminal courts and into a special court where each offender's unique situation is judged by legal experts, psychologists, and social workers. Treatment and further action is decided in these courts, where addicts and drug use is treated as a public health service rather than referring it to the justice system.
The resulting effect: a drastic reduction in addicts, with Portuguese officials and reports highlighting that this number, at 100,000 before the new policy was enacted, has been halved in the following ten years. Portugal's drug usage rates are now among the lowest of EU member states, according to the same report.
One more outcome: a lot less sick people. Drug related diseases including STDs and overdoses have been reduced even more than usage rates, which experts believe is the result of the government offering treatment with no threat of legal ramifications to addicts.
 
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So if there are 5 how come that can't turn into 10, than 15,etc.? I'm not saying in the next four years but maybe the next 30. The same time it took to build the jail and military industrial complexes?
And really you have no idea what I was expecting. Keep your assumptions to yourself. The real pie in the sky 'wishful thinking' is a different party actually winning any office of significance, but I'll let you do you.

Sorry my friend you seem not to get it. You continue to think cause you can change one law or 2 that it's going to change the corrupt politicians, corrupt judges, corrupt police officials all the way down. You changing one or 2...you have to change the whole thing. Unfortunately you seem to think someone like a good Samaritan will win Mayor and stay mayor without being bribed or offered money and stay clean.

Bout time you create 5, 10, 15 in the years you are calculating...it would be pointless that the fact is that you are already behind. U.S. doesn't have 30 years my friend....it barely has 4.
 
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