I just want to throw it out there that in the mix of this conversation disrespect towards Metal Gear Solid will be responded to with negs. May the odds be ever in your favor.
Don't feel bad that fact is almost inconsequential to the overall plot. More important is who the antagonist is.Why did I click the Zero time Dilemma spoiler
I think the FF8 twist is a lil overstated.Its silly but not game breaking. The series always had some insane coincidental shyt which never bothered me at all.We knew all the kids were orphans from their backstory and the fact they are enrolled in a military mercenary school as teens....and hell theres only one orphanage on the planet
FF4 for exampleThe bad guy is your brother! But not only that, you guys are half moon children. And not only that, but an evil moon man is controlling your bro!
FF9 ran the same story as 4 with the same twists just a different setting.The bad guy is your brother. But not only that, you guys both are test tube babies from space. And not only that, but an evil space man is controlling your bro.....but not only that theres an even eviler guy that you never met before and now this game is different!"
Give 8 some love brehs
I was gonna argue this but giving it a bit of thought...shyt really did start going out the window with 2. Psycho Mantis was the only real example of craziness from 1 but 2? Liquid possessing Ocelot via arm, Fortune and VampRaider was Kojimas first step into making the series goofy. He then over corrected his mistakes with raiden by over powering him and making him do some of the most ludicrous things I've seen done on screen. Metal Gear Solid starts loosely rooted in reality and because a magic/super power fest after the mistakes made with raiden. You can't go from such an epic character like Solid snake, and pass the baton to some corny cry baby trying to become a man on the battle field. Everything about raiden in mgs2 screams cornball and everything about raiden after mgs2 screams try hard. He goes from secret agent to bayoneta from one game to the next. I suppose in the context of this thread, the twist would be that everyone expected to play as snake for mgs2 and we ended up with raiden for 90% of the game.
Throw in a vote for 3rd Birthday
Just destroyed the Parasite Eve franchise
I was gonna argue this but giving it a bit of thought...shyt really did start going out the window with 2. Psycho Mantis was the only real example of craziness from 1 but 2? Liquid possessing Ocelot via arm, Fortune and Vamp
2 is a great game though, and Raiden is a good character. Bet that
It was a long series of retcons to make sense of a storyline that was never designed to be a connected coherent story.MGS4's epilogue destroys 30 years worth of storyline in one hour.
Raider was Kojimas first step into making the series goofy. He then over corrected his mistakes with raiden by over powering him and making him do some of the most ludicrous things I've seen done on screen. Metal Gear Solid starts loosely rooted in reality and because a magic/super power fest after the mistakes made with raiden. You can't go from such an epic character like Solid snake, and pass the baton to some corny cry baby trying to become a man on the battle field. Everything about raiden in mgs2 screams cornball and everything about raiden after mgs2 screams try hard. He goes from secret agent to bayoneta from one game to the next. I suppose in the context of this thread, the twist would be that everyone expected to play as snake for mgs2 and we ended up with raiden for 90% of the game.
Heavy Rain was just too forced, I would think, as a murderer, I would be thinking about, and doing murdery things. I get the whole reveal aspect but it should've been done better, like in first person, in familiar locations.
You didn't see it coming because the game essentially lied to you in how it portrayed one of it's characters. They basically pulled that outta their asses.Personally thought that ish was .... Heavy Rain was dope..didn't see it coming