World's oldest rock found in W. Australia; 4.374 billion years

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If all you are saying is that people blindly follow things, then yes, they do. However, following science is not at all comparable to following religion. Using them alike in the same sentence is disingenuous. Science is rooted in math which is the universal language. Everything thats produced in this world can be mathematically derived and explained. Science uses these mathematical explanations to understand how our world works and its history. This means science is based on universal truths than can be replicated anywhere. It can be proven time and time again. This is definitely not close to being comparable to how religion operates and you may want to open your mind to those truths.

Nope. I was saying that some people follow science blindly like people blindly follow religion. That was my statement and it was exemplified in this thread. Pretty much people going "Im fine believinga lie because at SOME TIME they will correct it" instead of the "I need proof to believe anything" rhetoric they come to when speaking of God. Thats what this thread was really about.

Math the universal language? :mjlol: You do know that are alot of our interpretations of "math" are handed down from long ago right? Nonetheless that is not the universal language.

Again, science works on universal mathematical truth. Religion works on spiritual words. They are not the same. Faith in science has a different interpretation than faith in religion. One can be proven, the other must be believed.

They go hand in hand breh. One doesnt invalidate the other.

By the way, God can be proven breh but its a personal relationship. But it pretty much comes to whether one CHOOSES to seek or chooses not to. They can close their eyes but I mean it doesnt change anything. And I dont think one would want to meet or come realize for the first time God's omniscience when what was spoken of in the prophets comes to pass :sadcam:

But yea all make believe :rudy: I mean didnt your ancestors build a temple to their God? :patrice:
 

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we keep repeating: science is built on skepticism, they encourage it. afterwards, it becomes a law. religion doesnt embrace that practice. skepticism is frown upon. and there are far more appropriate words to use to describe believing in science than faith.

Pretend that theres not an ounce of corruption when it comes to science brehs :rudy:
 

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Nope. I was saying that some people follow science blindly like people blindly follow religion. That was my statement and it was exemplified in this thread. Pretty much people going "Im fine believinga lie because at SOME TIME they will correct it" instead of the "I need proof to believe anything" rhetoric they come to when speaking of God. Thats what this thread was really about.

Math the universal language? :mjlol: You do know that are alot of our interpretations of "math" are handed down from long ago right? Nonetheless that is not the universal language.



They go hand in hand breh. One doesnt invalidate the other.

By the way, God can be proven breh but its a personal relationship. But it pretty much comes to whether one CHOOSES to seek or chooses not to. They can close their eyes but I mean it doesnt change anything. And I dont think one would want to meet or come realize for the first time God's omniscience when what was spoken of in the prophets comes to pass :sadcam:

But yea all make believe :rudy: I mean didnt your ancestors build a temple to their God? :patrice:

Can you point to a greater universal language than math that can be applied anywhere in the universe?

Proof of God is there because you choose to seek it? Sounds like your mind is playing tricks on you.

 

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Can you point to a greater universal language than math that can be applied anywhere in the universe?

Love, smiles, crying, anger, etc...

If you're talking of all the universe, then brother please :childplease: Do you honestly think that you or I with our feeble minds can comprehend whats in the universe and then accurately come to a language that applies to all of it? When we are a speck in a vast universe? Hopefully you were referring to humans and our earth. But still you would be wrong.

Proof of God is there because you choose to seek it? Sounds like your mind is playing tricks on you.
How else does one get proof? Is it not by seeking?
 

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Nope. I was saying that some people follow science blindly like people blindly follow religion. That was my statement and it was exemplified in this thread. Pretty much people going "Im fine believinga lie because at SOME TIME they will correct it" instead of the "I need proof to believe anything" rhetoric they come to when speaking of God. Thats what this thread was really about.

Well now that people have come forward with proof of the scientific assumptions presented in OP's post

Care to step forward with your proof of God :mjpls:
 
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I wouldn't care if their approximation of the age of that rock was off by hundreds of billions.

Millions of theories in science might be incorrect. Many results are probably tampered with by nature. Science isn't perfect, and for our good sake is wrong numerous times.

But I think we can agree science's track record is legit as fukk.

Whereas I still have yet to hear one theory of the scriptures that makes any fukking sense
 

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And what evidence did YOU see that leads you to believe that this rock is that old?
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so how old is the earth then? :lupe:

Announcer: "Good defense as that pass is deflected out of bounds."

:mjlol:
 

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Yes and part of that heritage is worshiping the God of Abraham. That is, if the people that hypothesize that your people stole the heritage from another group are not correct in their hypothesis.


I dont either and yea jewish god is a fairy tale I would assume. Now the God of Abraham, thats real friend :shaq:


Good thing we have the internet where we can find if I said that science or scientists are never correct. Can you find it friend?



:mjlol:


But you would still have to explain how the science and math are completely indicative of age and why it is accurate. You couldnt do so. You would say (if you were in their shoes) that "this is how we were taught to do it". Which doesnt make it accurate. Otherwise, you would be following what your ancestors followed in the God of Abraham.

I hate to bring the "who is a Jew" argument into this thread... but Jews/Israelites, whether proselytes or not, were all considered one in the same, regardless of which nation they came from.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel 47:22-23
It shall be that you will divide it by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who dwell among you and who bear children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger dwells, there you shall give him his inheritance,” says the Lord God.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus 19:34
"But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Esther 8:15-17
"And Mordecai went out from the presence of the king in royal apparel of blue and white, and with a great crown of gold, and with a garment of fine linen and purple: and the city of Shushan rejoiced and was glad."

The Jews had light, and gladness, and joy, and honour.

And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/complete.ii.xiv.ix.html
Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country; if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the land of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time this therefore befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah 19:20-25
"And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

And the Lord shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall know the Lord in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the Lord, and perform it. And the Lord shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the Lord, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them. In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians. In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land: Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 12:37-38
And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children. And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 12:41-50
And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt. 42 It is a night to be much observed unto the Lord for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the Lord to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations.

And the Lord said unto Moses and Aaron, This is the ordinance of the passover: There shall no stranger eat thereof:but every man’s servant that is bought for money, when thou hast circumcised him, then shall he eat thereof. A foreigner and an hired servant shall not eat thereof. In one house shall it be eaten; thou shalt not carry forth ought of the flesh abroad out of the house; neither shall ye break a bone thereof. 47 All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Thus did all the children of Israel; as the Lord commanded Moses and Aaron, so did they.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Chronicles 2:34-36
Now Sheshan had no sons, but daughters. And Sheshan had a servant, an Egyptian, whose name was Jarha. And Sheshan gave his daughter to Jarha his servant to wife; and she bare him Attai. And Attai begat Nathan, and Nathan begat Zabad

http://biblehub.com/isaiah/56-3.htm
Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord say,
“The Lord will surely separate me from His people.”

Nor let the eunuch say, “Behold, I am a dry tree.”
 

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New Testament accounts (which I know you don't agree with) offers the same claims.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 2:5-10
And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans?And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judæa, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes

http://biblehub.com/acts/24-24.htm
Several days later Felix (edit: Roman procurator) came with his wife Drusilla*, who was a Jew. He sent for Paul and listened to him as he spoke about faith in Christ Jesus.
*Father was an Edomite

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 11:25-26
Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 17:16-17
While Paul was waiting for them in Athens, he was greatly distressed to see that the city was full of idols. So he reasoned in the synagogue with both Jews and God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 10
Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 16:1-3
Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek: which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium. Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 3:29-30
"Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith."


Although I totally agree with you @King-Over-Kingz ...I find anyone claiming to be a Jew who doesn't believe in a divine creator to be strange.
 

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Announcer: "Good defense as that pass is deflected out of bounds."

:mjlol:
Gtfoh it was an intelligence test. on everything I'm not gonna spend my time arguing with someone who thinks the earth is only 6000 yrs old. :stopitslime:

The article very clearly says they used two different forms of dating. but you prolly didn't read it
 

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Gtfoh it was an intelligence test. on everything I'm not gonna spend my time arguing with someone who thinks the earth is only 6000 yrs old. :stopitslime:

The article very clearly says they used two different forms of dating. but you prolly didn't read it

I'm laughing because you completely avoided his question. Why? Because it was rhetorical. OF COURSE you didn't conduct any scientific experiment. :mjlol:

He played you, son. :umad:
 

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I'm laughing because you completely avoided his question. Why? Because it was rhetorical. OF COURSE you didn't conduct any scientific experiment. :mjlol:

He played you, son. :umad:

i answered the question with my last reply :ufdup:

Your mother played you by raising you as a fatherless miscreant. get offa meh dik fagget :violent:
 
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