World population projected to hit 9.7 billion by 2050 and 11.2 billion by 2100

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several billi too many

As I've heard it said before, if its to many you know where you can start.......:francis:

I agree its a lot of people, and the impact of resources is going to be profound. Brings into question the nature of geopolitical boundaries, once countries start bursting at the seams.
 

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Desalination is expensive, doesn't nearly create enough drinking water, and disposing brine waste is problematic.

We don't have enough food. I don't know about you, but I don't like the abundance of gmos, antibiotics, and pesticides we use in our food.

On top of that...cattle and livestock grazing causes just as much pollution as automobiles.

Dog, we don't have the technology. It sounds good to say that we have enough resources to go around...but we simply dont, PERIOD.

We will compromise eventually, just like the lifelong cigarette smoker who ends up with lung cancer.

We are not advanced enough nor altruistic enough for 10+ billion people on this planet.
What is a major positive though is that "eventually" could actually be here very soon, given current technological trends.


By the way leyet I didn't read a word of your post. We're done ITT, friend.
 

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At nikkas saying we dont have enough food, we do. About half of all food we produce is thrown and alot is used to feed animals. We have enough food to make everyone fat, but the problem is money. Its waaaaay cheaper to throw away the food than it is to give it away. And we all now the only thing people care about is profit.

If we fix that problem and lab grown food gets to an acceptable level then we'll be able to feed people for as long as we want
 

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Desalination is expensive, doesn't nearly create enough drinking water

Expensive :childplease:

Do that sh*t with public funds bro... we pay billions of dollars to drone babies in the middle east I think we can pay a few billi to get our desalination game up. After all, this is our existence as a species we're talking about :ld:

And in terms of creating enough drinking water 1) this would be one channel amongst many of our water supply and 2) the oceans on this planet are far vaster than you think

disposing brine waste is problematic.

no more problematic than

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We don't have enough food. I don't know about you, but I don't like the abundance of gmos, antibiotics, and pesticides we use in our food.

Think about what you just said.

Is your statement an issue in terms of quantity, or quality?

And is it in our capacity to stop GMOs or nah?


On top of that...cattle and livestock grazing causes just as much pollution as automobiles.

:martin:

(been waiting to use this smilie :russ:)

Dog, we don't have the technology. It sounds good to say that we have enough resources to go around...but we simply dont, PERIOD.

Dog, yes we do. And i've provided the examples in this thread.


We are not advanced enough nor altruistic enough for 10+ billion people on this planet.

Some of us aren't... for now :sas2:
 

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Expensive :childplease:

Do that sh*t with public funds bro... we pay billions of dollars to drone babies in the middle east I think we can pay a few billi to get our desalination game up. After all, this is our existence as a species we're talking about :ld:

And in terms of creating enough drinking water 1) this would be one channel amongst many of our water supply and 2) the oceans on this planet are far vaster than you think



no more problematic than

Wysypisko.jpg







Think about what you just said.

Is your statement an issue in terms of quantity, or quality?

And is it in our capacity to stop GMOs or nah?




:martin:

(been waiting to use this smilie :russ:)



Dog, yes we do. And i've provided the examples in this thread.




Some of us aren't... for now :sas2:


I guess we have to agree to disagree. Some of the technology to support that growth is here, but it is in the infancy stages. Perhaps by 2100...2100 it will be sustainable. My real argument is with a population over ten billion, the other problems I mentioned grow infinitely more complex, and more likely to occur. I don't think in 100 years people will be socialist enough to think of humanity over themselves.

Perhaps we will have that cataclysmic event that causes us to think outside of ourselves in the next 100 years, and let's also hope we're not over the threshold to return to homeostasis. This current slow death we are experiencing; rising temperature, crazy weather, mass extinction, war, famine, climate change; no one notices and no one cares. If the status quo continues, we are doomed. Greed, be damned.
 
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I guess we have to agree to disagree. Some of the technology to support that growth is here, but it is in the infancy stages. Perhaps by 2100...2100 it will be sustainable. My real argument is with a population over ten billion, the other problems I mentioned grow infinitely more complex, and more likely to occur. I don't think in 100 years people will be socialist enough to think of humanity over themselves.

Perhaps we will have that cataclysmic event that causes us to think outside of ourselves in the next 100 years, and let's also hope we're not over the threshold to return to homeostasis. This current slow death we are experiencing; rising temperature, crazy weather, mass extinction, war, famine, climate change; no one notices and no one cares. If the status quo continues, we are doomed. Greed, be damned.

Technology to support growth existed 100 years ago with Tesla but keep believing that b.s. science of today that supports depopulation.
 

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Technology to support growth existed 100 years ago with Tesla but keep believing that b.s. science of today that supports depopulation.


Tesla had a lot of interesting Tech, but it wasn't developed. Perhaps if he wasn't bankrupted and alienated, we could be having a different conversation.
 

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Technology to support growth existed 100 years ago with Tesla but keep believing that b.s. science of today that supports depopulation.

That's how this is going to be solved.. through massive depopulation. Best to just accept it and try not to be one of the ones getting merked :skip:
 
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