Kunty McPhuck
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World Boxing Super Series Season 1 thread: 9/28 DAZN Groves vs Smith (WBA Super Middleweight Title)
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Kunty McPhuck
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Breh from the manor won 
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MoroccanBoy
Madness
Jr was shyt
Jean toomer
Superstar
Jus like his daddy. Pitiful.I knew Eubanks wasnt that good
Euro hype jobs, who haven't fought on US soil, are typically very overrated
that's some BS breh
The point is WHO they fight not WHERE
there are divisions nowadays which are Euro central not US it's not the 80's anymore. Let's say 168 or cruiserweight as an example, the most accomplished dudes with the best resumes in both division are Europeans typically fighting in Europe
Gassiev beat Lebedev in Russia and Dorticos in Russia but he's legit to you cause he beat Wlodarczyk and Jordan Shimmels in the US?
Usyk had his 2 best wins in Latvia (Briedis) and Poland (Glowacki) but he is only legit to zou cause he beat lesser opponents in front of US audience?
AJ would be more legit to you if he would go to the US and beat up Jarrell Miller even though he already beat Klitschko in the UK?
AJ vs Wilder might happen in the UK too, if Joshua beats him there he still gonna be an Euro hype job cause the fight wasn't in the US?
If Groves would beat Zurdo and Benavidez in the UK he wouldn't be legit...?
point is... this logic is leaking
yes there are plenty of weight classes where the top fighters are almost exclusively fighting in the USA even the ones who are originally not from there but this is not universally true, there are divisions which have a different landscape, not all divisions fall under the same rule
the point is always who they fight not where, you can't say that it's some universal rule that they have to fight in the US to be legit.
The logic aint leaking....Eubank just got BADLY exposed after you been hyping this dude like he was, "simply the next" and I knew he would bc he hasnt even proven he could win a fight in the US
Gassiev beat Shimmell, yes that proved he was legit to me bc SHIMMELL was being hyped up
Same with Usyk who beat an undefeated, hyped Olympian, Michael Hunter on US soil
No, i dont believe in Anthony Joshua for the same reason...beating an old Wlad coming off a loss & 2 years ring rust, and a Dominic Breazeale who should've lost to Amir Mansour
Just like in basketball, you have to prove yourself on US soil before you're really as good as your fans claim, bc ALL the best Boxers have fought in America...you cant name me 10 Euros in the past 3 decades who didnt fight in America, but were legit the best fighter in the division
Just like the hype job Diego Ch
ves who was hyped, Eubanks is #SimplyTheNext Euro to not fight on US soil & get exposed as a hype job
reservoirdogs
Superstar
idc about the last 3 decades, I'm talking about nowThe logic aint leaking....Eubank just got BADLY exposed after you been hyping this dude like he was, "simply the next" and I knew he would bc he hasnt even proven he could win a fight in the US
Gassiev beat Shimmell, yes that proved he was legit to me bc SHIMMELL was being hyped up
Same with Usyk who beat an undefeated, hyped Olympian, Michael Hunter on US soil
No, i dont believe in Anthony Joshua for the same reason...beating an old Wlad coming off a loss & 2 years ring rust, and a Dominic Breazeale who should've lost to Amir Mansour
Just like in basketball, you have to prove yourself on US soil before you're really as good as your fans claim, bc ALL the best Boxers have fought in America...you cant name me 10 Euros in the past 3 decades who didnt fight in America, but were legit the best fighter in the division
Nobody thinks that Gassiev is legit because he beat Jordan Shimmel
He became legit when he beat Lebedev in Russia and he further raised his profile in his win against Dorticos in Russia. He fought in the USA and he is legit but he isn't legit BECAUSE he fought in the US his best wins coming on different soil. Same with Usyk, nobody actually thought that he legitimised himself with beating Hunter. He first legitimised himself with beating Glowacki, the defending champion in Poland
and again... what if Joshua vs Wilder happens in the UK and Joshua beats him... still didn't fight in the US but guess you would have to call him legit then
all I'm trying to say that what matters is who you fight not where and even if not many, there are some divisions where the guys fighting outside the US are on pair or better than the ones who fight in the USA, so fighting in the US doesn't mean any difference
let's see the heavies...
the ones who mostly fight outside the USA: Joshua, Parker, Whyte, Pulev, Povetkin, Takam, (Fury if he comes back)
fighters who mostly fight in the US: Wilder, Ortiz, Breazeale, Washington, Miller, Kownacki
Can't see the huge difference in the level of competition between the 2
idc about the last 3 decades, I'm talking about now
Nobody thinks that Gassiev is legit because he beat Jordan Shimmel
Same with Usyk, nobody actually thought that he legitimised himself with beating Hunter. He first legitimised himself with beating Glowacki, the defending champion in Poland
and again... what if Joshua vs Wilder happens in the UK and Joshua beats him... still didn't fight in the US but guess you would have to call him legit then
all I'm trying to say that what matters is who you fight not where and even if not many, there are some divisions where the guys fighting outside the US are on pair or better than the ones who fight in the USA, so fighting in the US doesn't mean any difference
let's see the heavies...
the ones who mostly fight outside the USA: Joshua, Parker, Whyte, Pulev, Povetkin, Takam, (Fury if he comes back)
fighters who mostly fight in the US: Wilder, Ortiz, Breazeale, Washington, Miller, Kownacki
Can't see the huge difference in the level of competition between the 2
Im not going hypothetical with you...im stating facts.
A Euro who is hyped & never fought on US soil is more than likely to be another Euro hype job.
Prove me wrong....name me some Euros who havent fought in the US in their entire career, but were legit?
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They should fight.....domestic derby and its gonna be funny seeing grove's leftovers going back and forth
Eubanks has all the tools to succeed. What he's lacking is actual ring IQ and more refined instincts. His effort was top notch. To me he kept the fight competitive off of aggression alone. The thing is only about 20% was effective. He landed a decent amount of hooks, but most were cuff shots and others Groves rolled with taking off some of the power. He needed to straighten some of his shots and not telegraph everything. Groves was reading everything.
Dude just kept spamming the same basic attacks hoping for a different outcome. He couldn't adjust or try new tactics. nikka just fought harder.
If Groves wasn't so fukking passive he could have knocked Jr the fukk out.
Eubanks has been getting by on talent and athleticism for a good minute, but its not enough at the world stage. Unless he changes his approach, he'll always look like he's at the entrance. The thing is getting him to improve so he can walk through the damn door and beat better guys.
Dude just kept spamming the same basic attacks hoping for a different outcome. He couldn't adjust or try new tactics. nikka just fought harder.
If Groves wasn't so fukking passive he could have knocked Jr the fukk out.
Eubanks has been getting by on talent and athleticism for a good minute, but its not enough at the world stage. Unless he changes his approach, he'll always look like he's at the entrance. The thing is getting him to improve so he can walk through the damn door and beat better guys.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Im not going hypothetical with you...im stating facts.
A Euro who is hyped & never fought on US soil is more than likely to be another Euro hype job.
Prove me wrong....name me some Euros who havent fought in the US in their entire career, but were legit?
not going hypothetical?
if Joshua beats Wilder in the UK he is legit or not?
I just mentioned you a few current (not past decades...) boxers who earned their reputation on fights which were not held in the USA, fighting in the USA against lesser opponents didn't legitimise them, beating elite opponents did and they beat those opponents in Europe. Fighting in the US was not a deciding factor in their current reputation.
You keep talking about the past decades when the US (plus Mexico) was very dominant in boxing. This changed and continue to change recently, boxing became more global on world level. It's not that the USA isn't good in it anymore it's just that others stepped it up too.
In most divisions fighting in the USA still means the most money and/or the highest level of opponents fight there but this is not universally true anymore. I just provided you an example with the heavyweights AJ fights in the UK and is the star of the division, ppl come to him, he makes more money fighting at home than going to the USA to beat Miller or someone... the money in HW division is in the UK currently
and the competition ain't on a different level than the US one either, see my list of names only the Wilder fight is questionable, cause if they can blow that up to some Vegas mega fight then they will fight there, I doubt it at this moment though I think they will end up fighting in Wembley.
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Eubanks has all the tools to succeed. What he's lacking is actual ring IQ and more refined instincts. His effort was top notch. To me he kept the fight competitive off of aggression alone. The thing is only about 20% was effective. He landed a decent amount of hooks, but most were cuff shots and others Groves rolled with taking off some of the power. He needed to straighten some of his shots and not telegraph everything. Groves was reading everything.
Dude just kept spamming the same basic attacks hoping for a different outcome. He couldn't adjust or try new tactics. nikka just fought harder.
If Groves wasn't so fukking passive he could have knocked Jr the fukk out.
Eubanks has been getting by on talent and athleticism for a good minute, but its not enough at the world stage. Unless he changes his approach, he'll always look like he's at the entrance. The thing is getting him to improve so he can walk through the damn door and beat better guys.
Damn articulated all my thoughts about Jr and the fight. I think having his Pops in his corner is catching up he needs a quality trainer shyt I can’t even remember any instructions he was given to make any adjustments.
