Will this next Marvel Phase live up to the One that just Ended?

[Primetime]

Very good point.

So my question is, who is the NEW Big 3? That the MCU could realistically build an entire new interconnected continuity on?

Black Panther is a definite. And because Captain Marvel apparently made a bunch of money(didn’t see the movie) i’m guessing Carol Danvers would be number two. I really enjoyed the Dr Strange movie, but is he popular enough to be the third pillar? Would they keep Hemsworth and Thor around for 5-6 movies to keep an anchor to the old guard? Ant-Man doesn’t have the “epic” factor to his characterization of movies to be seriously considered. Do they fast track Fantastic Four and make Reed Richards the defacto third?

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Why CAPTAIN MARVEL and BLACK PANTHER Didn't Have Bigger Roles in AVENGERS: ENDGAME

The popularity of Black Panther and Captain Marvel (which is still the number two movie in North America) is undeniable, but the two characters who may represent the future of the Marvel Cinematic Universe didn't get much screen time in Avengers: Endgame - and as it turns out, the big reason is all about timing, according to co-screenwriter Stephen McFeely.

"There wasn’t a lot of time to adjust," McFeely told the New York Times. "It’s not like we could say, 'Hurry, put Shuri in there.' We started [filming Infinity War and Endgame], and then Black Panther started, we’re still going. They finish. We’re still going."

As it turns out, audience reception to Black Panther in particular shifted during the process of creating Avengers: Infinity War - but not with enough time to adjust story plans to focus on more Wakanda characters.

"When we’re doing the tests [before Black Panther opened], and Cap goes, 'I know somewhere,' and then you cut to Wakanda, the audience goes, 'Oh, that’s interesting.' But when you do those tests after the movie comes out, all you have to do is [makes drumming noises] and people freak out."

Adding to the lack of Captain Marvel in Endgame, McFeely says her solo film wasn't finished before Endgame's story came together.

"Same issue with Captain Marvel," McFeely elaborated. "We shot [Brie Larson] before she shot her movie. She’s saying lines for a character 20 years after her origin story, which no one’s written yet. It’s just nuts. Certainly, Captain Marvel is in [Endgame] a little less than you would have thought. But that’s not the story we’re trying to tell — it’s the original Avengers dealing with loss and coming to a conclusion, and she’s the new, fresh blood."

Moving forward, I'd say BP and Carol are the MCU's Batman and Superman in a way, with similar plot strengths (or "weaknesses" if you're of the camp who finds them "overpowered").

Big difference is they don't pander to the white guy group that Batman and Superman inherently prioritize; instead they're symbols of clap back for blacks and white women, while still outgrossing any Batman or Superman movie. So yea, Disney gonna milk those two, forever.

Dr. Strange and Spider-Man aside, Idk if you need a 3rd definitive person since i don't think they'll even do it like the RDJ era. Hell, Shang Chi or an asian Namor or asian Sersi could blow, or Monica Rambeau in Cap Marvel 2. Valkyrie is another unknown variable.

At this point, we should all just enjoy the ride because everything is branching out and we don't need everything to be defined or tied together anytime soon imo.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Carol will be one of the flagship characters. You can see that coming a mile away. I can possibly see a new female Thor. I can't imagine it would be Jane Foster with Portman playing her.

Black Panther will be another flagship character.

You know there's gonna be a gay character who's gonna play a big part too. They might make the new female Thor gay.

 

[EBK String]

I don't think they will have an event this big again but I do think we will see something comparable from a quality and impact stand point. It just won't take as long to build towards now that the foundation has been laid.

I think the next Avengers event will be Avengers vs Xmen in 4-5 years then that leads to secret wars a couple years after.

I got a feeling they will stick to their word and not bring X-Men in for a while but they will foreshadow it due to the events of Endgame and build towards it.

Brie Larson is no Robert Downey Jr. She has zero charisma.

 

[EBK String]

Marvel shouldnt have killed off Killmonger. He was there strongest villian after Thanos.

Killmonger teaming up with Namor to go to war with Wakanda

:magnifico:

 

[Emoryal]

You dudes crying for AvX disgust me. It was an average crossover even in comics
Kang!

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Brie Larson is no Robert Downey Jr. She has zero charisma.

Maybe....

But if we can be neutral and real for one moment....

Just one moment...

She doesn’t have to be RDJ and I don’t get why people keep saying that.

Also the charisma thing, we really don’t know that one way or another just like we didn’t know it with Helmsworth and many other people that were practically nobodies before the MCU.

Pretty much everyone we see now and think have this charisma had to develop and grow into it, RDJ included. Go back and look at the press for IM 1, RDJ looked almost like a nervous desperate man just hoping for sometime to pop off. His first comic dude was wearing like a T-shirt and jeans or something looking like he going to Walmart afterwards. He ain’t earned that swag and charisma yet and neither has Brie and many of the others.

shyt if anyone thinks it’s crazy now the response Billie Larson getting, imagine if she walked in with that RDJ cockiness now and ain’t done shyt.... it would be worse.

We just (like we did the OG Avengers) need to give them time and let them progress a little bit more before we start comparing their year 1 selves to the decade versions of the cast

 

[Mowgli]

AvX Crossover sounds about right to me. Introduce the X-men to those who’ve only been paying attention to these Avengers, thru these Avengers.

I’m more curious how many more movies these current actors have left in these roles. Do they plan to keep RDJ and Hemsworth into the next phase which itself will be another grip of movies or do they start with blank slates and recast? I mean I guess Disney has the money to keep paying these ppl but do they all want to keep playing their roles?

Edit: answered my own question regarding the actors...I reckon they just say we onto the next phase of movies and we’d like you all to sign long term contracts to reprise your roles in as many movies as we need and anyone who wants out can then be recast or character straight up eliminated.

They ran the xmen trailer twice during my show.

They comin

 

[Mowgli]

You dudes crying for AvX disgust me. It was an average crossover even in comics
Kang!

Then it's time for incursions

The lack of cosmic beings in this film was disturbing

 

[EBK String]

Maybe....

But if we can be neutral and real for one moment....

Just one moment...

She doesn’t have to be RDJ and I don’t get why people keep saying that.

Also the charisma thing, we really don’t know that one way or another just like we didn’t know it with Helmsworth and many other people that were practically nobodies before the MCU.

Pretty much everyone we see now and think have this charisma had to develop and grow into it, RDJ included. Go back and look at the press for IM 1, RDJ looked almost like a nervous desperate man just hoping for sometime to pop off. His first comic dude was wearing like a T-shirt and jeans or something looking like he going to Walmart afterwards. He ain’t earned that swag and charisma yet and neither has Brie and many of the others.

shyt if anyone thinks it’s crazy now the response Billie Larson getting, imagine if she walked in with that RDJ cockiness now and ain’t done shyt.... it would be worse.

We just (like we did the OG Avengers) need to give them time and let them progress a little bit more before we start comparing their year 1 selves to the decade versions of the cast

MBJ stole Black Panther from Chadwick. Some actors just have more charisma than others. Marvel keeps getting these budget actors to save money hoping they pop like the actors did in the last phase.

 

[Bboystyle]

Avengers vs X-Men only thing that could surpass it

Marvel would be stupid not to release this

 

[Bryan Danielson]

MBJ stole Black Panther from Chadwick. Some actors just have more charisma than others. Marvel keeps getting these budget actors to save money hoping they pop like the actors did in the last phase.

Ok

So are you talking “actor” or “character” ?

Cuz the actual actor or person MBJ.... I’m gonna say naw. You can tell he a cool humble dude but he seems too laid back an awkward in a “this is new to me” way

As far as the character, not trynna taking credit away but it was written the way it was written for him

Marvel does keep getting these jewels and roughly it has popped for the majority of them

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Marvel would be stupid not to release this

True.... but we see now one of the most important pieces is the director and if it ain’t the Russo’s, this next phase should be to find a the team that can do this.

I mean do we want more Russo type cats or more Whedon/Snyder/Singer type cats?

 

[prophecypro]

Peter Parker is cleary gonna be the eventual lead of there MCU over the next 2-3 phases

 

[prophecypro]

I mean look, they got Spidey, BP, Cap Marvel, Dr Strange, Valkyrie (New Thor) holding it down. Then they are going to ask us to embrace characters recent (Kamala Khan and maybe if Sony wanna play ball Miles) and Eternals and Shang Chi are gonna be a real test. Angelina Jolie being in Eternals helps

I think the Fantastic Four is gonna be critical to entering with Spidey and maybe Moon Knight and Blade

The bigger question will they reboot characters from their TV verse? Initially it was part of MCU continuity so you could bring them in or just recast? (Ghost Rider in Shield, Punisher, Daredevil, Elektra, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones,Inhumans). Im still a bit annoyed they werent able to have the movie nd tv division play ball and have them eventually be in the movies. I know this was the plan and I wonder if this will create problems down the line


And then theres the X-Men/Mutant Universe. I dont know what you do there. I dont think you can just reboot it and have people be cool after that being at Fox for nearly 20 years with its own set of movies and tv universe

The Fracturing of the TV MCU verse and Sony maybe the biggest challenge

 

[prophecypro]

True.... but we see now one of the most important pieces is the director and if it ain’t the Russo’s, this next phase should be to find a the team that can do this.

I mean do we want more Russo type cats or more Whedon/Snyder/Singer type cats?

Wow,its really come to this