Will Pusha T, 45 years old, ever give up his cocaine gimmick?

[Sean7]

Pusha sent a tweet out a few days ago that his music is to be enjoyed like watching a mob movie. It's not real it's just entertainment.

Sounds good too, that is all that matters.

 

[duckbutta]

Scorsese of rap

Makes the same content over and over and over again

If I showed you 5 min of a Scorsese movie you wouldn't be able to tell if it was casino, goodfellas, the departed, the irishman, or the family

If I played one pusha t song you wouldn't be able to tell of it was off of my name is my name, king push, or daytona

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

its what his fanbase wants from him....

so no he won't and he shouldn't

 

[Tribal Outkast]

Rappers have nothing to talk about. It is what it is at this point

 

[itsyoung!!]

OP is like 45 years old and still doing a troll gay gimmick...

 

[Sad Bunny]

OP is like 45 years old and still doing a troll gay gimmick...

I’m in my early 30s.

 

[zayk35]

I came in here to agree with the OP but the Scorsese comparisons kinda made me think a little more critically.... and I'm in agreement with the ppl who say

 

[Fresh]

Pusha T can spit, lyrically he goes in, but only about coke raps, but hey that's his niche

it's so many rappers that only rap about a few things it's not even funny

 

[Switch]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it

 

[ECA]

Makes the same content over and over and over again

If I showed you 5 min of a Scorsese movie you wouldn't be able to tell if it was casino, goodfellas, the departed, the irishman, or the family

If I played one pusha t song you wouldn't be able to tell of it was off of my name is my name, king push, or daytona

Majority of Scorsese's filmography isn't mobster related

 

[Fletch]

I remember 4 or 5 years ago when Juicy J was the same age Future is right now and The Booth was clowning Juicy for being old and rapping about popping pills and sipping lean.


Future's old ass is about to drop a tape talking about the same shyt and The Booth is like...


That's another reason why The Booth has fallen off a cliff and died.

Probably because those same people are now Juicy J’s age and have realized being in your late 30’s/40 doesn’t ≠ retirement home status and you still want to have a good time and party and bullshyt…just you know be done early enough to get in bed at a reasonable hour.

 

[Robbie3000]

Hip-hop is a large reason why black men are largely viewed as child-like by society.

Just look at what the majority of rap music is about and then look at some of these older rappers and how they carry themselves:









Rap music keeps it's listeners and the image of the black man in a perpetual state of adolescence. Rap music is a large reason the WORLD looks at black men as the least responsible, least likely to be husband/ good father material, etc.

I disagree with people who say "if you grow out of hip-hop, you were never hip-hop in the first place".

That couldn't be more untrue. I'm 38 now and I've been obsessed with rap since I was 10 but now as I've grown as a person , more specifically a black man, I just can't sit and digest the majority of content in rap. Rap music is probably like 10% if my listening now.

I like Pusha for his lyricism / pen game but his content and most content in rap period doesn't sit right with my spirit any longer.

But am I a hypocrite tho? Because if Pusha was to switch up his style and go the Nelly route for example, I would be the first one to laugh, point my fingers at him and say "nah bruh, this ain't it. Go back to ya old style"

Go join a jazz and R&B board.

 

[MasterThought]

should probably take a look at real life before thinking its because of rap.

Rap is a reflection of our acceptance of and the dominance of hood culture within the AA community.

That white boy is not taken as seriously as a black man because guess who the majority of robbers in pretty much every American city are?
Before you neg or come at me sideways you can look up the numbers yourself

Oh shyt


I don't know if this is true or not. Maybe it is. I'm not a "put my head in the sand" type of dude when it comes to us.

All Im saying is that rap = modern day MINSTREL SHOW.

you are aware of what a Minstrel Show Is right?

I know you do. To sit and act like rap music (which is the most popular artform in the world) doesn't have an impact on our collective image is highly ignorant of us, ESPECIALLY when the vast majority of it portrays us as criminals, drugdealers, pimps, etc

The whiteboy in that video felt comfortable enough to make a video like that because he knows he's not seen as a threat to society.

He doesn't have the world's most popular artform telling the world that he's a menace to society, even tho cacs are capable of being as violent, thuggish as everyone else.

Say what you wanna say about these other groups, they take their image seriously. We don't.

 

[MasterThought]

Black people were getting lynched by mobs of angry white people in this country way before rap music existed. African soccer players don't get called "monkeys" by Eurocacs because of rap.

That hatred & fear of Black men has always been there, if rap ends hateful people will latch on to some other reason to be hateful. If I denounce rap will airports stop searching through my checked luggage? I never made it so I don't put my rap name on my luggage, it's my regular birth name but they search it regardless.

I know brothers who have taught at MIT & Harvard so realistically my perspective could never be like yours. Brothers that listened to rap growing up and don't feel like they need to prove themselves to their colleagues that don't look like them.
You need to work on how people perceive YOU and possibly try to build connections to more productive people. Feeling like you need to apologize for folks you have no influence over will just keep you confused, depressed. & isolated. There are no white people keeping score of your life. There's nothing wrong with taking negative imagery/content in rap music to task but that imagery doesn't effect my day to day life.

You want image problems, try being a dark skinned Indian dude or a Teletubby shaped Mexican kid. Your Black ass might not even get a medal in the woe is me image olympics.

I love this talking point


Do you know what was used to throw gasoline on top of race relations in the past? 2 words: media propaganda.

Back in the day before rap music existed , they were performing Minstrel Shows to showcase the most negative stereotypes of blacks to the world.

At one point in time , Minstrel Shows we're the most popular artform in America. It portrayed blacks as violent, lazy, hypersexual, and overall threats to society. It absolutely played a large role in brainwashing the masses into hating and fearing blacks. And this was by design.

Hell, the early 1900's film "The Birth Of A Nation" was the main reason the KKK reassembled:

How 'The Birth of a Nation' Revived the Ku Klux Klan

You seem like too smart of a brother to not already know these things so I'm not trying to offend you.

Ultimately what I'm saying is that rap music took the place of Minstrel Shows. It is currently the driving force being used to JUSTIFY the inhumane treatment of blacks.

And my ultimate gripe with our image isn't about how it makes the rest of the world feel about us ..........but moreso how it makes us feel about ourselves and each other

 

[MasterThought]

theres no other music thats pushed as a school to jail pipeline like rap music, you're not wrong as ive got older I look at it differntly too

You get it.