Wilbon - Heat should be blown up

[Mic-Nificent]

i don't think the heat's role players are as terrible as some people make em out to be. like what a few people have said here in so many words, it comes down to the system (or coach) and whether it breeds high quality shots for all the players on the court.

like for instance, people say or said San Antonio had the best bench in the league or were at least one of the deepest teams in general... but really, on an individual basis, them nyggas they got aint much more talented than what Miami got

at the start of this season, if you offered to give haslem or boris diaw, most contenders would take haslem. if you offered battier or danny green, most contenders would take battier and most nyggas would ask if green wasnt that same nygga dancin with lebron all them years ago (all they knew him for). gary neal or mario chalmers? toss up. matt bonner or james jones?? toss up... bonner may be slightly better shooting 3s (i don't know) but they the exact same type of player. dajuan blair or ronnie turiaf/joel anthony?? whatever. capt jax or mike miller? that's the captain as he's a better defender and more durable but, offensively, they're both simply just spot up shooters with basic handles who can get past their man off a pump fake after the ball is swung there way.

In other words, we saw how useless (or miami heat'ish) the Spurs bench looked the other night when their own system broke down (or when they simply couldn't make shots) and it became up to Ginobli, Parker and Duncan to try and pull a Lebron/Wade/Bosh and do everything themselves. More often than not tho, Popovich seems to have a system that gets everybody comfortable and sure of where they need to be and what they need to do. On the other hand, more often than not, you don't really get that sense with Miami and the structure they have.

Hell no they're not.

When they SIGNED those role players all people did was talk about how dangerous of a team it made the Heat. Mike Miller and Battier in particular were being hailed as the missing pieces to the Heat's future dynasty.

Just like how Mo Williams, Shaq, and Antwan Jamison's signings were praised heavily when Bron was in Cleveland.

 

[Scustin Trillberlake]

They have no bench, there rotation sucks, Bosh is injured, Mike Miller doesn't play that well anymore and his back is

They need to sign some free agents in the off season and create a decent bench.

 

[Malta]

Honestly, I'd be surprised if they won game 6, they haven't shown me anything in the last two seasons that paints them out to be a resilient bunch.

Maybe this can be the turning point you can look at back and say that's when their championship mettle was forged to come back and win in 7, but I really doubt it. I think it's kind of sad that the Thunder have already shown that, and yet the team with the MVP and another top 5 player have yet to.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

They have no bench, there rotation sucks, Bosh is injured, Mike Miller doesn't play that well anymore and his back is

They need to sign some free agents in the off season and create a decent bench.

If it was just as simple as signing a good free agent there'd be no talk of trades....

 

[tremonthustler1]

Honestly, I'd be surprised if they won game 6, they haven't shown me anything in the last two seasons that paints them out to be a resilient bunch.

Maybe this can be the turning point you can look at back and say that's when their championship mettle was forged to come back and win in 7, but I really doubt it. I think it's kind of sad that the Thunder have already shown that, and yet the team with the MVP and another top 5 player have yet to.

Durant has always shown that. Kid was here at Dyckman last summer and he lost a random ass game against Michael Beasley's team the night after he dropped 66 at the Rucker and that shyt ate at him. He was legitimately mad he lost a game that really didn't matter. He just doesn't wanna lose at anything. None of those guys in Miami even seem legitimately mad that they're at this point.

 

[Remarkable]

Durant has always shown that. Kid was here at Dyckman last summer and he lost a random ass game against Michael Beasley's team the night after he dropped 66 at the Rucker and that shyt ate at him. He was legitimately mad he lost a game that really didn't matter. He just doesn't wanna lose at anything. None of those guys in Miami even seem legitimately mad that they're at this point.

someone explain how Lebron DGAF about winning at this point? having never won sh1t.

 

[aqualung]

Wilbon said "You don’t commit to $350 million or whatever it is to get a conference finalist.”

Pat Riley & the Heat front office would disagree. ECF two years in a row means the Heat have been doing things correctly for 2 years in a row. Look at where they've distinguished themselves -- NOT just where the Heat have fallen a lil bit short! Spo and the big 3 have a formula that gets them far with consistency.
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Wilbon said “Well are they not running plays because Spoelstra didn’t diagram them during the timeout? Of course not. Of course Spoelstra diagrammed a play during the timeout. Are they executing the play? No. So, whose fault is that? Either Spoelstra can’t get them to, or the players — I don’t think they’re defiant....”

That right there is HILARIOUS!!! :D
I don't know WHAT Spo is doodling in the huddle.
Maybe he's drawing smiley faces while spouting cliches about not letting go of the rope / staying the course.
Maybe he says "give Wade the ball and get out of the way."
Ex: At a recent press conf, Spo mentioned a play that had layers like an onion. The play he planned had alternate endings like a decision tree or a plan-your-own-adventure book for kids.
Maybe Spo doesn't communicate his master plans to the Heat. Can't execute what you don't understand.

But I suspect that Wade is defiant of Spo. Lebron picks up on it and is defiant also.

Would Spo's plays suck if they were implemented? Maybe they'd actually work. Maybe Spo's plays are Pat Riley-approved. Perhaps we'll never know.

 

[kt773]

im a bulls fan and even i call bs on this i mean damn two yrs and they should be blown up?

 

[JT-Money]

Durant has always shown that. Kid was here at Dyckman last summer and he lost a random ass game against Michael Beasley's team the night after he dropped 66 at the Rucker and that shyt ate at him. He was legitimately mad he lost a game that really didn't matter. He just doesn't wanna lose at anything. None of those guys in Miami even seem legitimately mad that they're at this point.

I think Lebron and Wade are just frustrated because Boston is taking them out of their game. Both these guys are really one-dimensional offensively and need to dominate the ball to be effective. That's why you rarely see them play off each other unless its on the fast break. The most you'll see is Lebron pretend to set an pick for Wade and then run back to his spot. Neither of them are comfortable playing off the ball.

Their biggest issue is Wade isn't 100% and Lebron has anxiety problems. All those floaters Wade as hitting against Indiana after having his knee drain are gone. Sometimes I watch him in games and it looks like he can barely dunk now.

And as far as Lebron its all mental with him because during the first 3 quarters he'll consistently hit jump shots or get to the rim at will. But the minute it gets close to crunch time when the pressure is on he gets timid. Just watch his body language change during an big game when its close in the fourth quarter. It's gotten so bad now he won't even attempt jump shots in crunch time unless he's completely wide open. He drove on Garnett and tried to lay the ball up on knowing it was going to get blocked rather than shoot an jumper and miss. Unless he develops an post game teams will continue to shut him down in the fourth quarters of playoff games.

 

[Juven]

kris humpries and the nets 2014 2nd rounder for iggy

 

[So-Chi]

We should have a "auto-correct" for idiot posters. It picks up the imbecile in your posting style, and erases it before anyone with sense could read it.

 

[ghostwriterx]

Honestly, I'd be surprised if they won game 6, they haven't shown me anything in the last two seasons that paints them out to be a resilient bunch.

Maybe this can be the turning point you can look at back and say that's when their championship mettle was forged to come back and win in 7, but I really doubt it. I think it's kind of sad that the Thunder have already shown that, and yet the team with the MVP and another top 5 player have yet to.

To be fair, not sure Thunder have been pushed like Miami has yet, first two rounds were cake for them. Miami was down 2-1 on the road w/o their 3rd best player.

Game 7 on the road in San Antonio would be interesting, but don't think we'll see it. Regardless until they win it all, they haven't shown more than the Heat.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

What the hell would this do for the Sixers? Wade is on the downside of his prime years. He has some games left in him but shouldn't you be building towards the future?

 

[NUPE 1911]

This thread is dumb. People claimed the Laker's needed to be blown up back when they had Kobe and Shaq and could not win shyt. Then the Laker's got a competent coach (Phil) and proceeded to win multiple rings with Kobe and Shaq.

I think many of you all simply don't realize or respect the importance of coaching.

Further, there is no scenario where giving up a top 3 player for role players makes sense. NONE AT ALL.

Spo., the Heat coach, simply got out-coached last year in the Finals and is getting out-caoched again in the ECF thus far.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Win or lose they have to fire that coach. Dude has been horrible outcoached in this series and also in the finals. Ultimately the blame falls on pat slickback riley not coaching this team regardless of how they feel about him. With him coaching they win last year and are in the finals right now currently. Spo has 0 NBA pedigree as a player or previous assistant really. Dude is a video coordinator, you can't have him coaching arguably the 2 best players in the league and someone else in the top 15. It's obvious they don't respect his authority, look at their lethargic uninspired play and shytty execution.