Wii U has the best games this Christmas :stopitslime:

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

None of the articles specified that it only applies to "next gen" consoles.
Make up your own points then pretend others are upset when they call out your BS brehs

yes because the context of an article titled "forget xbox one and ps4- the smart choice for xmas is wii u" is clearly not specifying next gen consoles.

And a lot of those same publication have ben calling wii u NOT "next gen" for a year now.

which makes you getting butt hurt about these articles even more

try to deflect when your bullshyt point doesn't stand brehs.....the rationale of a fanboy

 

[MeachTheMonster]

try to deflect when your bullshyt point doesn't stand brehs.....the rationale of a fanboy

The irony

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Son u mad as hell stop it. I know u.

you know me?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I'll address what you said in the OP head on.

If you don't like Nintendo style games that's fine but Their line up of games was better received and has been critically rated better than anything on the Xbox One and PS4. That means the Wii U actually does have the best game.

never said I don't like Nintendo games. What I said is one Mario game is not enough the trump the entire launch lineup of either console(admittedly this is merely my opinion), and that Mario is no more "fresh" "new" or "revolutionary" than plenty of other next gen games.(Fact)

You're welcomed to show me any Xbox One or PS4 exclusive title that has a score that rivals Mario 3D World. You can't because that title doesn't exist yet.

It's not just about the scores. Like I said I agree that Mario has always been a great game, and I'm sure the new game continues the trend, but it seems as though other games get dinged for the same things Mario is praised for. And again I don't think this is limited to Mario. I think reviewers get caught up in the same hype we do be it positive or negative, and that gets reflected in the scores.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

The irony

the irony of a fanboy calling me a nintendo fanboy, whilst deflecting that the point that articles that he posted clearly specifies next gen consoles

mario 64 was wack sauce

 

[Fatboi1]

you know me?

Yup

 

[MeachTheMonster]

the irony of a fanboy calling me a nintendo fanboy, whilst deflecting that the point that articles that he posted clearly specifies next gen consoles

Naw. You made that up, and you are in here furiously moving goalposts and creating your own reality.

Nothing I can do about that

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

Naw. You made that up, and you are in here furiously moving goalposts and creating your own reality.

Nothing I can do about that

http://www.computerandvideogames.co...e-and-ps4-the-smart-choice-for-xmas-is-wii-u/


http://www.arabicgamers.com/news/2986/why-the-wii-u-trumps-the-ps4-and-xbox-one

Finally, some new consoles! So maybe you'll think it's ungrateful to suggest it's the worst time to buy them. I believe it's merely logical though: Right now the Xbox One and PS4 are hosting the fewest games, all at their highest price (some digital downloads are, indefensibly, sold for £63 ), while the non-game services are threadbare for now.

Next-generation is now current-generation. Understandably, most of the attention paid to gaming over recent months has been focused on the battle between the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. Debates have raged over which console is the better option, with main talking points generally being price and exclusive games. Judging things on that basis, maybe there's another contender to the throne of console king. Something called the Wii U.

spec·i·fied spec·i·fy·ing- to name or state explicitly or in detail

con-text- the words that are used with a certain word or phrase and that help to explain its meaning

creating your own reality.

that real irony

 

[MeachTheMonster]

that real irony

Once again, none of them specified "next gen" was the only option.

 

[Zebruh]

Those general ass "___ you just ___" statements can make any game seem mediocre. "In Killzone you just shoot people", "In Street Fighter you just punch/kick people", "In Forza you just go forward." Like come on dog, we all know games offer more than that, but the way those offerings are presented, packaged, introduced, and implemented can greatly influence it's reception. Drivatars is an awesome mechanic and deserves it's props. That honestly is innovative, but it doesn't changed how Forza in the end plays out. You can take a feature like Drivatars out the game and Forza 5 can still be played the same, just with last-gen/stupid A.I. You try taking that cat suit or that Mario multiplier out of SM3DW and that game probably won't be able to be completed, because the levels are designed with certain power-ups being needed to complete them, and those power-ups greatly influence how you can trek through the world around you, especially if you're trying to fully discover/complete the game. Racing a "ghost" of my tendencies doesn't have the same effect on the game as Mario's new additions, so it's innovation doesn't compare to Mario's on that scale. Doesn't stop the game from being innovative, but IMO it's clear to see how Mario's innovations shape the game more than Forza's.

And honestly, Forza is the only next-gen game pushing great innovation between the PS4/X1. Battlefield heads have already admitted that BF4 isn't really innovative, 2k14 isn't really innovative, CoD/Assassins Creed are yearly rehashed cash cows at this point, and Killzone has always been back of the pack in terms of major shooters. A good amount of next-gen PS4/X1 games are honestly not innovative, it's just a case of good games becoming marginally better than your predecessor. And there really is nothing wrong with that, not every game needs to be innovative to be good/fun. Games that really/truly push the envelope don't really see the limelight like that too much because they sometimes cater to a niche audience.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Those general ass "___ you just ___" statements can make any game seem mediocre. "In Killzone you just shoot people", "In Street Fighter you just punch/kick people", "In Forza you just go forward." Like come on dog, we all know games offer more than that, but the way those offerings are presented, packaged, introduced, and implemented can greatly influence it's reception. Drivatars is an awesome mechanic and deserves it's props. That honestly is innovative, but it doesn't changed how Forza in the end plays out. You can take a feature like Drivatars out the game and Forza 5 can still be played the same, just with last-gen/stupid A.I. You try taking that cat suit or that Mario multiplier out of SM3DW and that game probably won't be able to be completed, because the levels are designed with certain power-ups being needed to complete them, and those power-ups greatly influence how you can trek through the world around you, especially if you're trying to fully discover/complete the game.Racing a "ghost" of my tendencies doesn't have the same effect on the game as Mario's new additions, so it's innovation doesn't compare to Mario's on that scale. Doesn't stop the game from being innovative, but IMO it's clear to see how Mario's innovations shape the game more than Forza's.

And honestly, Forza is the only next-gen game pushing great innovation between the PS4/X1. Battlefield heads have already admitted that BF4 isn't really innovative, 2k14 isn't really innovative, CoD/Assassins Creed are yearly rehashed cash cows at this point, and Killzone has always been back of the pack in terms of major shooters. A good amount of next-gen PS4/X1 games are honestly not innovative, it's just a case of good games becoming marginally better than your predecessor.

new weapons/powers = inovation

You can take certain weapons/powerups out of plenty of games and they would not be able to be completed.

If that's the case you must think a game like dead rising is inovative as hell.

 

[winb83]

never said I don't like Nintendo games. What I said is one Mario game is not enough the trump the entire launch lineup of either console(admittedly this is merely my opinion), and that Mario is no more "fresh" "new" or "revolutionary" than plenty of other next gen games.(Fact)

So basically you're trying to throw away the entertainment value and quality of Mario 3D World so you can put it on equal ground with games that are considered inferior to it? Mario didn't review that well because it was fresh, new, or revolutionary it reviewed the way it did because the total package of it is flat out better than anything the PS4 and XB1 has to offer.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So basically you're trying to throw away the entertainment value and quality of Mario 3D World so you can put it on equal ground with games that are considered inferior to it?

who said this

Mario didn't review that well because it was fresh, new, or revolutionary it reviewed the way it did because the total package of it is flat out better than anything the PS4 and XB1 has to offer.

Once again I'm not talking about the review scores. I'm talking about the things people like to repeat about the games. Some games are old and stale for adding new boards and weapons, and Mario gets praised for it. And the bolded is an opinion that people such as yourself want to repeat, but we see which games most people want to play.

 

[Zebruh]

new weapons/powers = inovation

You can take certain weapons/powerups out of plenty of games and they would not be able to be completed.

If that's the case you must think a game like dead rising is inovative as hell.

If a games new additions are forcing great new level designs, as well as adding entertaining gameplay value to the core mechanics to present new gameplay, I take that as innovation. It's not just "adding new weapons", it's going a step further and allowing those features to shape a new world and present new gameplay. A lot of games have features that wouldn't be affected at all if they weren't present in the game. FLUDD was innovative to me even tho Super Mario Sunshine wasn't amazing like it's 3D company. You don't need to create an entirely new formula to be innovative fam, nor does the innovation need to be a completely revolutionary game/idea that flips the gaming world upside down.


It's clear to see how Mario's innovation is shaping the entire game around it. Point. Blank. Period. It's clear to see how A Link Between Worlds is piff and is allowing dope new puzzle gameplay and exploration options while paying homage 20 years later to it's father. It's clear to see that Drivatars, while an awesome feature, isn't impacting gameplay and design on the scale of these other games. Nintendo's brand of innovation is clear-cut and thrown right at you so you have no choice to but accept it and enjoy the games they've crafted while other games rely on the depth of their systems to present innovation. Some games just flat out suck, some games aren't worried about being overly innovative, and others might have the right idea but terrible execution.


And Dead Rising is trash. Nothing about that game is innovative. Game is the same from start to finish with very little change to it's core gameplay. No amount of weapons change that.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

Once again I'm not talking about the review scores. I'm talking about the things people like to repeat about the games. Some games are old and stale for adding new boards and weapons, and Mario gets praised for it. And the bolded is an opinion that people such as yourself want to repeat, but we see which games most people want to play.

i think this is where your argument falls apart at imo. if we were just talking about the concept of mario saving the princess in every game then you would have a solid point, but since your argument seems(imo) to be about game play then it is not the same as bf, killzone, or forza. the game play in mario games that are not direct sequels have sufficient and visible changes. there is a clear distinct evolution in mario games that goes beyond adding a new board, weapon, or power up. the game play in mario sunshine is not identical to mario 64. the game play in mario galaxy is not identical to mario sunshine etcetera etcetera, while the game play in bf, killzone, dead rising, and forza hasn't since their initial release.