Why working at Burger King has been "pure hell" for this Florida Man

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This dude makes less than 8 bucks an hour, but he has cable and two cars and is surprised that he is broke.
I dont think he has cable and two cars
He was speaking hypothetically..'when that 15hr comes,i can see 2 cars,cable,new dress for my wife'
No way he has cable but no internet
I could be wrong though
 
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I dont think he has cable and two cars
He was speaking hypothetically..'when that 15hr comes,i can see 2 cars,cable,new dress for my wife'
No way he has cable but no internet
I could be wrong though

He mentions his light bill though. I don't think that him and his wife are living in darkness until he gets that raise up to $15 which is never going to come.

This is a poorly written article.
 

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Im not sure if "honorable" is the most appropriate word for that scenario. I think that a significant portion of Americans/Society don't find oil speculators to be very honorable. I also don't think that it is a prevailing attitude that people who make great money also contribute to society and social cohesion. In addition, I don't necessarily think that honor and wages really correlate.

Maybe "honorable" is not the correct word but something akin to it. I think there is very open classism practiced. I'm willing to wager that if you took an individual, and alternated scenarios where in one he was wearing a suit with a suitcase and the other he was wearing a janitor's uniform pushing a broom, people would most likely make vast assumptions of that person based on their perceived employment and salary, as well as moral assumptions.

Obviously, there are negative connotations when the phrase "fast-food worker" is heard, but I think that that is improving ever so slightly, especially comparatively speaking to the "oil speculator" as more information gets spread about the big business and greed behind oil and speculators in the market in general. In fact, I bet a bunch of people would say Person A is far more honorable than Person B, and that Person B's impact on society is far more volatile and factors into more unhappiness than they do happiness.

I don't agree. See above. It's only obvious when we agree to expose the wall street person as a criminal. If he's not exposed as a criminal, I would guarantee he would be looked at more favorably.

I'm trying to look at this from a Utilitarian point of view and it is hard to evaluate it and come up with answers to solve it entirely.

How do you suggest wages should work? Supply and demand and elasticity of both is impossible to escape, as well as the corporate ins and outs in the current infrastructure of America. Social norms are always tough to break, agreed, that is why they are norms...so it is hard to work within these norms to change things to "how they should be" rather than "how they are".

I don't know the utopian solution to wages but I do know our current system is vastly broken. There is daily oppression under some false pretense of the state of human behavior that tells us "this is they way nature intended". It isn't. There are plenty of ideas out there about wageless societies and we have plenty of documented proof of many nations where the labor is rewarded at a much better rate than here.

Whether you like it or not, this subject will almost always revolve around economic factors and I don't see how anything can really be done in a relatively short amount of time outside of small pieces of legislation, such as: raises to and changes in the formula for calculation of minimum wage, increased taxes on financial transactions (hits the oil speculator), increased corporate tax rates and penalties/cracking down on international tax havens. Unfortunately, the people set to lose on these things are the people with the most "pull" and also could just try and take business elsewhere if it gets "bad enough", which could cause even more problems for the average joe than there already are.

This all stems from an "Economic-first" mentality, like I said before. Maybe that is the best way to judge human society, but the fact that we have to judge and punish greed by imposing economic-first solutions might be a futile and primitive way to go about it.

The Zeitgeist and Venus Project people have proposed a pretty good idea about a resource-based economy as opposed to a monetary-based economy. To sum it up, they propose we work to build machines to do work so humans can enjoy life and work on their passions in life. They got into a lot of detail so I suggest you check it out. Obviously it isn't perfect and I don't agree with all premises presented, but at least it is new ideas being presented.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/travis-walter-donovan/the-zeitgeist-movement-en_b_501517.html
 

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How does it make me feel? It makes me feel sad for you. You're contributing to your own downfall. You're contributing to long term self-detriment for short term success. At the end of the day you're a pawn in all of it like the rest of us. Someone or some machine will come eventually and you're job will be outsourced or replaced just as well. Good luck being 50 with a worthless degree.


That will never happen.


My job is supported by you and your buddies. I made the conscious effort to go into a field that is supported by regulation.


The only way my job will go away is if you wake-up and realize that some segments of our economy are over-regulated. The thing is, you'll never come to that conclusion, and America has an ever going populist movement. I see where the wind blows, so I changed my course.
Since your liberal buddies have made running a business so difficult--with a maze of regulations that are extremely hard to navigate, Business owners will have to come to people like me for help. Oh, and they will have to come to me because YOU made it illegal for them to come to anyone else besides me.

I don't even add anything of value to the economy. In Fact, I think a burger king worker actually adds more happiness and wealth to our economy than I do, but somehow get paid 20 times as much as that worker. really all I have to really thank is the progressives. The progressives made my job possible. Thanks for the paychecks guys!
 

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That will never happen.


My job is supported by you and your buddies. I made the conscious effort to go into a field that is supported by regulation.


The only way my job will go away is if you wake-up and realize that some segments of our economy are over-regulated. The thing is, you'll never come to that conclusion, and America has an ever going populist movement. I see where the wind blows, so I changed my course.
Since your liberal buddies have made running a business so difficult--with a maze of regulations that are extremely hard to navigate, Business owners will have to come to people like me for help. Oh, and they will have to come to me because YOU made it illegal for them to come to anyone else besides me.

I don't even add anything of value to the economy. In Fact, I think a burger king worker actually adds more happiness and wealth to our economy than I do, but somehow get paid 20 times as much as that worker. really all I have to really thank is the progressives. The progressives made my job possible. Thanks for the paychecks guys!


:mjlol: @ this blatantly obvious attempt at trolling.

You will be replaced with a computer and some algorithms in the next 15 years. Enjoy being old and useless to the corporate world. Maybe then you'll understand.
 

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There seems to be a lot left out of this gentleman's story. Are there conditions that have forced him into a lifetime of low-paying fast food jobs? Like a criminal record or something?
Because 30 years working in one industry without any upward movement is hard to grasp.
I do feel for his situation though. That being said I can't see these greedy ass corporations just accepting a $15 minimum wage without coming up with ways to get around having to actually pay their workers a decent wage.
They already play around with schedules so that they employ inordinate amounts of part-time workers so they can avoid offering benefits so they won't take a government mandated $15 starting wage lying down.
 

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:mjlol: @ this blatantly obvious attempt at trolling.

You will be replaced with a computer and some algorithms in the next 15 years. Enjoy being old and useless to the corporate world. Maybe then you'll understand.
Gundam is a notorious liar with a lengthy history of :duck: I assume everything he says is bullshyt. I'm still waiting for his response about the white girl incident. He probably made that shyt up though.
 

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If you can make that boss move from bathroom duty to manning the french fries over the course of 30 years then something is wrong.
I'm not too familiar with the fast food hierarchy. But I work in the manufacturing industry, and 97% of the people who work the blue collar jobs I see are going nowhere. There's a ton of people who've worked for 30+ years and are in the same position.

Granted they make a much better wage than a fast food worker (the permanent people anyway). But my point is it's not uncommon for someone to work in the same low level position for decades. Most people are not moving on up like the Jeffersons.
 
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