Why was every prominent black conservative in the media pro-Zimmerman?

[godkiller]

Was just thinking this. Cool little niche market there's just gotta be some money in. These conservative hack types need somebody to point to and say "Hey, I'm not a bigot! This Black guy agrees with me!" Then there's just the Uncle Toms who genuinely feel that way. Do the dance, get the money. nh

Conservative talk radio has a tremendously large and loyal following. Hosts sometimes make millions of dollars. Rush Limbaugh alone racks in more than 20 million a year. Conservative c00ns spouting anti-black rhetoric give white people a twisted sense of validity and I have no doubt they tune into Tom shows on a regular basis. The hosts thereupon make money unlike anything black actors like Jesse Jackson will ever see. There are far more white bigots in this country than you can imagine, and they are diverse too.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

Seriously, dis nikka DEAD7...

 

[DEAD7]

Anyone who can look at the evidence in the Zimmerman case and reach a definitive conclusion either way is being biased IMHO.

I personally think Zimmerman was guilty as shyt, but based on the evidence and prosecutions poor job i think the right verdict was reached.

I stated early in thread I personally thought GZ was guilty... but an objective look at the facts didn't support a guilty verdict
This means insta c00n ? I see.

 

[DEAD7]

Liberal emotion level nearing 9000... better eject while I can.

 

[acri1]

Liberal emotion level nearing 9000... better eject while I can.

This whole "anybody who disagrees with me is being emotional" schtick is getting old.

 

[DEAD7]

If the races were reversed in the case, the verdict would likely be different, sure.
But for niqqas to claim they know who initiated that night, or they know exactly what was going threw the mind of another human being is
Only GZ and TM know who threw the first punch. Fact. You can say you think he is full of shyt all you want, but to say you know what happened like you were there is nutz and you niqqas need to quit.
The jury had one side of the story, and had to rule based off of it. They aren't gonna just make up the other half and rule how you want... right or wrong.

 

[godkiller]

I stated early in thread I personally thought GZ was guilty... but an objective look at the facts didn't support a guilty verdict
This means insta c00n ? I see.

It's clear your analysis of the facts is innately flawed or hopelessly biased. I did a long detailed analysis on Florida law in another form wherein I concluded ZImmerman was guilty. I don't remember all the aspects of Florida manslaughter and murder prerequisites I looked at, but the evidence is there. If one can conclude that Zimmerman went into the situation with a "depraved mind", which itself only requires assuming he has racial bias (let alone a weapon like a gun) and his actions don't qualify as self defense, that's enough to find him guilty on a murder charge:

(2) The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life.

 

[godkiller]

If the races were reversed in the case, the verdict would likely be different, sure.
But for niqqas to claim they know who initiated that night, or they know exactly what was going threw the mind of another human being is
Only GZ and TM know who threw the first punch. Fact. You can say you think he is full of shyt all you want, but to say you know what happened like you were there is nutz and you niqqas need to quit.
The jury had one side of the story, and had to rule based off of it. They aren't gonna just make up the other half and rule how you want... right or wrong.

The facts are there to convict Zimmerman. A few months I came across an article written by a law professor that flushed out the case. The truth lies in jury selection. I saw a special where a juror involved the case was interviewed. The juror sounded like a Southern white cac enamored with Zimmerman. She didn't seem erudite, scrupulous or otherwise a person with great judgment. Whites had too much politically invested in the case from the outset. If the jury had more non whites and fewer hicks, Zimmerman goes to prison.

 

[DEAD7]

It's clear your analysis of the facts is innately flawed or hopelessly biased. I did a long detailed analysis on Florida law in another form wherein I concluded ZImmerman was guilty. I don't remember all the aspects of Florida manslaughter and murder prerequisites I looked at, but the evidence is there. If one can conclude that Zimmerman went into the situation with a "depraved mind", which itself only requires assuming he has racial bias (let alone a weapon like a gun)
, that's enough to find him guilty on a murder charge:

(2) The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life.

So you know empirically that he went into the situation with a depraved mind(not gonna ask how, too much fukkkery will ensue), and want a jury to "ASSUME" he has/had racial bias?
Yep sounds air tight.

Look as stated several times, I wanted him found guilty to, but to suggest I know the inner workings of another mans mind, or that we should assume some things may or may not be true and decide based off of that is too sketch for me...

Maybe I just don't hate cacs enough :many:

 

[godkiller]

If the races were reversed in the case, the verdict would likely be different, sure.
But for niqqas to claim they know who initiated that night, or they know exactly what was going threw the mind of another human being is
Only GZ and TM know who threw the first punch. Fact. You can say you think he is full of shyt all you want, but to say you know what happened like you were there is nutz and you niqqas need to quit.
The jury had one side of the story, and had to rule based off of it. They aren't gonna just make up the other half and rule how you want... right or wrong.

You're a clown. There was more evidence to convict Zimmerman than there was to convict Timothy McVeigh. The entire Timothy McVeigh case rested on circumstantial evidence. That is to say, McVeigh was convicted purely on coincidence.

It doesn't matter who threw the first punch in my opinion. Zimmerman intiated through stalking Trayvon, which itself gives Trayvon the right of self defense. I don't need to know exactly what happened and rarely does a judge or jury know exactly what happened in any case. The question of Zimmerman's guilt rests on one's interpretation of the strength of the evidence against him. Period.

 

[Insensitive]

How so?

It's clear as day to anyone paying attention that these
people are trotted out to do the anti-Black tap dance
to placate the racists and make them feel better about
their archaic viewpoints.
I mean for fukks sake Larry Elder's has a book called
"Stupid black men : How to play the race card and lose".
Manning, GOP Chick, Jesse Lee etc. all share
the same view points, there isn't any real deviation in these
ideas which unsurprisingly are also found in White Nationalist
circles.
These are the sorts of black people who co-sign the blatantly
racist plantation/slavery analogies for blacks and the democratic
party used in some circles on the right.
These people I feel are completely indefensible
because they'll whore themselves out to the highest
bidder all while walking on and looking down upon people who look just like them.

I honestly feel it's less about any real "Black conservatism" and more about
dressing up white racism in black face.

 

[DEAD7]

The case literally hinges on who threw the first punch. You guys seem caught up in all the surrounding hoopla. None of that matters in court, only thing that matters is who initiated physical contact... that's it. When you accept this, the verdict will become clear.

The prosecution should have sought a lesser charge IMHO. and never put TM home girl on the stand, good God, I knew he was gonna walk after that

 

[Beegio]

So you know empirically that he went into the situation with a depraved mind(not gonna ask how, too much fukkkery will ensue), and want a jury to "ASSUME" he has/had racial bias?
Yep sounds air tight.

Look as stated several times, I wanted him found guilty to, but to suggest I know the inner workings of another mans mind, or that we should assume some things may or may not be true and decide based off of that is too sketch for me...

Maybe I just don't hate cacs enough :many:

Yes he went into the situation with a depraved mind, as evidenced by his discussion with the non emergency operator. "These a$$holes always get away", "fukking punks". The use of the term "suspect" in reference to Trayvon even after the murder. Those point to his mind being depraved of the fact that Trayvon Martin had not committed any crime, but still treated as a criminal by George Zimmerman, a citizen that had no kind of investigative, detaining, or arresting authority.

 

[godkiller]

So you know empirically that he went into the situation with a depraved mind(not gonna ask how, too much fukkkery will ensue), and want a jury to "ASSUME" he has/had racial bias?
Yep sounds air tight.

Look as stated several times, I wanted him found guilty to, but to suggest I know the inner workings of another mans mind, or that we should assume some things may or may not be true and decide based off of that is too sketch for me...

Maybe I just don't hate cacs enough :many:

Assumptions and inferences are a normative part of the judgment process. Rarely does anyone see a murder taking place so, for better or worse, assumptions and inferences are the barometer by which many are convicted. That's why a measure of reasonable doubt is mentioned so much in court proceedings. So your assertion that because we don't know exactly what happened we can't make any judgement, is wrong. Assumptions and inferences, and their according strength, are used to determine guilt and innocence all the time.

If you reject their validity--and I don't begrudge you the right to do so--then you should apply that standard to all cases, and assert that no one is guilty unless they are proven so without assumptions and inferences, regardless of strength.

As per Florida law, the following must be true to constitute a "depraved mind":

• A "person of ordinary judgment" would know the act, or series of acts, "is reasonably certain to kill or do serious bodily injury to another";
• The act is "done from ill will, hatred, spite, or an evil intent"; and
• The act is "of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life."

The first bullet point is a given.

Given Zimmerman's apparent racial bias in following Trayvon despite warnings against doing so, I judge him to have had one of either "ill will, hatred, spite, or an evil intent".

Given all that led up to Trayvon's murder, and Zimmerman's assumed spite and hatred, I will take this as a given too.

Verdict: Guilty of Second Degree Murder.

 

[DEAD7]

Assumptions and inferences are a normative part of the judgment process. Rarely does anyone see a murder taking place so in truth assumptions and inferences are the barometer by which many are convicted. That's why a measure of reasonable doubt is mentioned so much in court proceedings. So your assertion that because we don't know exactly what happened we can't make any judgement, is wrong. Assumptions and inferences, and their according strength, are used to determine guilty and innocence all the time.

As per Florida law,the prosecution had only to prove the following to convict Zimmerman on Murder #2:

• A "person of ordinary judgment" would know the act, or series of acts, "is reasonably certain to kill or do serious bodily injury to another";
• The act is "done from ill will, hatred, spite, or an evil intent"; and
• The act is "of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life."

Given Zimmerman's apparent racial bias in following Trayvon despite warnings against it, I judge him to have had one of either "ill will, hatred, spite, or an evil intent".

The last bullet point is a given.

GUILTY.

Fair enough.

Depraved, racist where im from don't call 911 before they cap a niqqa, but I see how you could honestly reach the conclusions you've reached. You have actually explained that position better than anyone else I've seen/heard.








I take it you cant imagine how the court could find GZ was acting in self defense when he fired the shots?