Why Was Crucial Conflict Trying To Pretend That Chicago Was The Country?!

[My Name Is My Naaame]

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Classic . My fav collab by twista and do or die

Rip Johnny P

 

[How Sway?]

being country = being country, doe.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

know em for Hay, i thought these mafukkas were from Mississippi or some shyt

Chicago = Midwest version of the delta due to mass migration

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Expect they didnt

Wu constantly talked about it, even when they first came out. So its not the same. At all.

I have no idea what your point actually is here.... the kung fu imagery and the whole "staten island is shaolin" stuff wasn't part of their steez ? (First forward literally one sentence) yes it was apart of their whole shyt and they talked about it constantly from the moment they came out?

Don't be the annoying wu nerd arguing some silly worthless point for the fukk of it, please

 

[DarkmanX]

I have no idea what your point actually is here.... the kung fu imagery and the whole "staten island is shaolin" stuff wasn't part of their steez ? (First forward literally one sentence) yes it was apart of their whole shyt and they talked about it constantly from the moment they came out?

Don't be the annoying wu nerd arguing some silly worthless point for the fukk of it, please

Yes, but you said "running around pretending Staten Island was China and they knew Kung Fu & shyt"..

Wu clearly explained that the Kung Fu shyt came from them watching Kung Fu flix they used to show at the theatres in NYC back in the 80s. So idk how you relate that to them pretending like STATEN ISLAND was China. It was still apart of THEIR experience. They never claimed it was Staten Islands.

Also, they also explained that the Kung Fu shyt was mostly about the brotherhood & the codes within the martial art. They never claimed they did martial arts or acted like they did.

And idk wtf your last sentence is supposed to mean. Saying you're wrong about a point about Wu-Tang makes you frighetened that im a "Wu nerd arguing some silly worthless point for the fukk of it"? fukk is you talking about.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Yes, but you said "running around pretending Staten Island was China and they knew Kung Fu & shyt"..

Wu clearly explained that the Kung Fu shyt came from them watching Kung Fu flix they used to show at the theatres in NYC back in the 80s. So idk how you relate that to them pretending like STATEN ISLAND was China. It was still apart of THEIR experience. They never claimed it was Staten Islands.

Also, they also explained that the Kung Fu shyt was mostly about the brotherhood & the codes within the martial art. They never claimed they did martial arts or acted like they did.

And idk wtf your last sentence is supposed to mean. Saying you're wrong about a point about Wu-Tang makes you frighetened that im a "Wu nerd arguing some silly worthless point for the fukk of it"? fukk is you talking about.

The last sentence meant don't be the guy typing paragraphs over fukking semantics on some "well actually " shyt ..that takes absolutely nothing away from the actual point of my initial post

And then you proceeded to do just that

It was a part of wu's aesthetic just like the Wild West desperado shyt was a part of crucial conflict's... I didn't mean that the goddamned wu tang clan came out LITERALLY maintaining Staten Island was in fact a geographical region of medieval china or that they swore to be tenth degree black belts or whatever the fukk...CC wasn't trying to confuse folks into thinking the west side of Chicago was some undeveloped outpost in the 19th century Texas countryside

 

[R-Typ3]

Crucial, Twista, Speedknot didn't sound like Bone and Layzie Kray have always said they didn't know anybody else outside of Cleveland was spittin fast the same time they were

 

[cornercommission2k12]

not true. Legendary traxster and psychodrama and snypaz were rapping like that in the early 90's before bone became mainstream

Twista was rapping like a ny nikka untill he hopped on their wave.

Chicago's first identity was Hip-house if you wanna be honest

I've seen this said a couple of times in this thread

And it's just not true

Tung twista was his original name, off the back he was the fast rapping dude. I was a youngster back then but I remember my older sister and her friends going to princeteon park back around 89/90 and coming back telling everyone about this dude that rap fast as hell named tung twista. Dude always rapped fast, I heard this track before even say poor righteous teachers or leaders of the new school



This was YEARS before a bone thugs hit the scene, twista never rapped like say a rakim, krs, etc.

The only thing I can concede he might have switched up was his message. I think twista used to study under Malachi Z York and his message was on some black power higher education shyt. Then he disappeared and re-emerge as some dude in the pimp game. So from message perspective he def changed but as far as rapping fast, tung twista or twista was the 1st I ever heard rapping fast even before fu shnikens or Das efx, and years before bone thugs hit the scene.

 

[DarkmanX]

The last sentence meant don't be the guy typing paragraphs over fukking semantics on some "well actually " shyt ..that takes absolutely nothing away from the actual point of my initial post

And then you proceeded to do just that

It was a part of wu's aesthetic just like the Wild West desperado shyt was a part of crucial conflict's... I didn't mean that the goddamned wu tang clan came out LITERALLY maintaining Staten Island was in fact a geographical region of medieval china or that they swore to be tenth degree black belts or whatever the fukk...CC wasn't trying to confuse folks into thinking the west side of Chicago was some undeveloped outpost in the 19th century Texas countryside

But the point was that with Wu's aesthetic they always explained the reason. So it was in fact apart of THEIR experience. Hence the Kung Fu, hence the name etc. It all made sense. Plus, mixed in with that 5% teaching it made even more sense.

With CC it was just apart of their image i believe. From my knowledge it wasnt something that was related to their music or anything.

 

[How Sway?]

I've seen this said a couple of times in this thread

And it's just not true

Tung twista was his original name, off the back he was the fast rapping dude. I was a youngster back then but I remember my older sister and her friends going to princeteon park back around 89/90 and coming back telling everyone about this dude that rap fast as hell named tung twista. Dude always rapped fast, I heard this track before even say poor righteous teachers or leaders of the new school



This was YEARS before a bone thugs hit the scene, twista never rapped like say a rakim, krs, etc.

The only thing I can concede he might have switched up was his message. I think twista used to study under Malachi Z York and his message was on some black power higher education shyt. Then he disappeared and re-emerge as some dude in the pimp game. So from message perspective he def changed but as far as rapping fast, tung twista or twista was the 1st I ever heard rapping fast even before fu shnikens or Das efx, and years before bone thugs hit the scene.

Touche.

but there was a time between his tung twista days and Adrenaline rush when he sounded a lot like an east coast rapper



SIDENOTE: IIRC crucial conflict had an underground album in the early 90's where they were rapping fast too. Also Wildstyle also said he was more influnced by ghetto trax hence why theyre music had alot of bounce.

 

[Taadow]

u seen white Chicago born who is country?

As a matter of fact yes, there are country White folk from Chicago I know...but I didn't ask if they were born there.

And don't act like y'all don't have them folks from Iowa and Indiana there, too.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Touche.

but there was a time between his tung twista days and Adrenaline rush when he sounded a lot like an east coast rapper



SIDENOTE: IIRC crucial conflict had an underground album in the early 90's where they were rapping fast too. Also Wildstyle also said he was more influnced by ghetto trax hence why theyre music had alot of bounce.

Yea, the thing is, when twista came with that fast shyt, NOBODY was feeling it. It got play regularly on radio and everything, still flopped in the city, everybody in the chi seemed to either be on west coast shyt or geto boys. I will assume that twista was still trying to keep some kind of consciousness in his music which gravitated him more to a east style

I will say this, bone thugs blowing up under eazy e, made it possible for that style to be marketable and sell. So for that, we can credit bone thugs, making hit records and selling a million with that fast style made it possible for twista, do or die, crucial conflict etc.

But as far as the style, I still believe twista was before all of them.

 

[Milk N Cookies]

Chicago be hella country tho especially with them accents

If anyone knew history, they would know black neighborhoods in chicago ain't nothing but Mississippi and Alabama colonies, considering this is where the vast majority of our grandparents who came here are from.

Crucial conflict was just finding they own niche, the same way bone thugs was doing the devil worship shyt, and Twista and do or die going the pimp route.

What's wrong with finding your own lane and style?!

For the record, the final tic album was a chicago classic

Desperado

shyt just ain't the same no mo

They made good music.

All of this & I'm told often that I talk country. I even took a dialect test with results saying my dialect is Deep South, lol.

 

[Zero]

Listened to the Final Tic last night for the first time in years because I really had nothing else better to do

Dudes could rap but that whole wild west/rodeo/cowboy shyt infused with Chicago street rap was and is inherently corny

 

[How Sway?]

I knew a girl from morgan park that sounded like she was from louisiana or mississipi

Plus I knew brehs that were actually BIRTHED in alabama and mississipi and arkansas and tenesee louisiana, etc etc .