Why the Republicans just don't get it (Minimum Wage)

newarkhiphop

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I've been saying the same shyt for years. How the fukk is the minimum wage in NYC the same as Lexington, KY?

:wtf: that's fukking criminal. I know @midwesthiphop is eating good....i know he doesn't regret leaving up north


:yes: getting a 3 bedroom next year with a mortgage payment less than $500 a month

:wow: just found out am getting a unexpected raise today too

:whoa: i make way more than min wage tho


and i havent read this whole thread, but i dont think raising the minimum wage would make that much of a difference
 

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:yes: getting a 3 bedroom next year with a mortgage payment less than $500 a month

:wow: just found out am getting a unexpected raise today too

:whoa: i make way more than min wage tho


and i havent read this whole thread, but i dont think raising the minimum wage would make that much of a difference

Why would anyone pay you more than min wage if they dont have too?:patrice:



































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minimum wage should be based on job experience

no experience = 8-10

experience = 10-12
 

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It's worth noting that progressive states are home to the highest cost of living(go figure), doubling that of more conservative states, so the two perspectives are coming from literally two different places.

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i havent read this whole thread, but i dont think raising the minimum wage would make that much of a difference

The difference includes having a roof over your head, food in your belly, health, and amount of government "handouts" you need to stay afloat. Not much of a difference at all.
 

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The difference includes having a roof over your head, food in your belly, health, and amount of government "handouts" you need to stay afloat. Not much of a difference at all.

Gotta pick yourself up by your bootstraps, then eat them. :troll:
 

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if we raise the minimum wage to $10 do you think your taxes are going down one cent?

I wonder if you know that in some places in california minimum wage is already $10 and throws your whole argument out the window :ld:

whenever I see someone who actually is a responsible/hard working employee at a min wage place I always tell them to go apply at AT&T, Sprint, Verizon or a bank.. even a banker or teller..

they require no previous experience just want good personalitys and bankers for chase start usually around the $17+ hour mark, Wells Fargo $20+ hour(chase bankers make more through commission than wells fargo bankers), even tellers make $11+ a hour and in places like San Francisco they even start tellers around $12-14/hour :ld:

AT&T, Sprint and Verizon while not to ME career jobs, people CAN find careers in them (more so Verizon and AT&T). HR, Training, Management... a HORRIBLE sales person at these jobs will at least make $45k a year (I dont know about sprint but the worst sales person I worked with at AT&T and Verizon never made less than $45k in a year and I worked with dozens of employees at both jobs through different stores :manny: )

Places like banks youll never work more than 40 hours( many reasons) and you usually get benefits if you are at least a banker.

My personal opinion for people getting hired at other places is that most people resumes suck. Not so much the work/school background. But the actual resume is HORRIBLE. Not presentable at all. Almost everyone I know doesnt even know what a cover letter is.

Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo... Credit Unions.. they are ALWAYS hiring because they usually promote within. Same with the cell phone companies I listed. Companies that make large profits, but at least pay the workers decent, with benefits and can open up new branches/stores non stop and need people to fill them.

The only reason I left these companies is because since the age of 21 ive ALWAYS made around 60-65k a year. I am 26 now. I just felt like I had to hop off the tread mill of making the same amount. Not to sound cocky but my sales are way too good to just be making $60-65k a year. But I am in top 0.0001% of sales at the jobs I listed (literally, was ranked #1 in Verzon West Coast sales just recently of January, I left in March, thats out of 8500 sales reps...) so I left to make my own business (@Liquid can vouch, I was making a custom computer company called KingCPU but it flopped hard cause of many reasons I can blame on myself and the people who took 1 1/2 months past their deadline to complete my website)

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People working min wage jobs need to apply at other big corporations that DO hire. Even entry level jobs like customer service rep over the phone or tellers. When Wal-Mart and McDonalds start losing employees and no one wants to fill the positions and they start losing business because customers have no one to serve them they will learn. Obviously this will NEVER happen. But its what should happen..

Also to note, McDonalds are owned by individuals(me, you, your momma too can buy a McDonalds if we had the money) where Wal-Mart is not. Not saying its right, but might have something to do with it.
 
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The difference includes having a roof over your head, food in your belly, health, and amount of government "handouts" you need to stay afloat. Not much of a difference at all.

Am not a economics guy so I don't know how it would work but if minimum wage was raised to let says $12 for everyone, wouldn't price of goods also go up?
 

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Am not a economics guy so I don't know how it would work but if minimum wage was raised to let says $12 for everyone, wouldn't price of goods also go up?

Some people might raise their prices, but there are incentives for them not to do so too much (ie. people will shop elsewhere). The question is whether the net effect would be negative. Prices at some places might go up slightly, but the number of people qualifying for food stamps/welfare/etc would go down so it's more likely that the govt could reduce taxes. As I pointed out earlier in this thread, places like Walmart paying people low wages basically means that taxpayers have to supplement their income.

http://www.ilsr.org/new-study-finds-walmarts-miserly-wages-cost-taxpayers/

California taxpayers are spending $86 million a year providing healthcare and other public assistance to the state’s 44,000 Wal-Mart employees, according to a new study by UC Berkeley’s Institute for Industrial Relations.

The study, “Hidden Cost of Wal-Mart Jobs,” found that the average Wal-Mart worker required $730 in taxpayer-funded healthcare and $1,222 in other forms of assistance, such as food stamps and subsidized housing, to get by.

So it's not like paying people like that has no negative consequences. Also, a point nobody in this thread has addressed - minimum wage in the late 60s was equivalent to about $10.50/hr and unemployment then was actually a lot lower than it is now. If it didn't crash the economy then, why would it now? :ld:
 

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Some people might raise their prices, but there are incentives for them not to do so too much (ie. people will shop elsewhere). The question is whether the net effect would be negative. Prices at some places might go up slightly, but the number of people qualifying for food stamps/welfare/etc would go down so it's more likely that the govt could reduce taxes. As I pointed out earlier in this thread, places like Walmart paying people low wages basically means that taxpayers have to supplement their income.

http://www.ilsr.org/new-study-finds-walmarts-miserly-wages-cost-taxpayers/



So it's not like paying people like that has no negative consequences. Also, a point nobody in this thread has addressed - minimum wage in the late 60s was equivalent to about $10.50/hr and unemployment then was actually a lot lower than it is now. If it didn't crash the economy then, why would it now? :ld:
well it will cut into their profits and then they will put off hiring people....so it will crash the economy :troll:

in McDonald's case...they don't want to raise prices because they know they sell shyt
 

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big businesses like wal mart will be fine in any tax environment....it's the small businesses you hurt when you raise the minimum wage. And it may be on a small scale but people are going to lose jobs especially the smaller businesses.
 

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I wonder if you know that in some places in california minimum wage is already $10 and throws your whole argument out the window

like i said already in this thread I'm not against raising the minimum wage. I was just throwing a number out there when I said ten.

and like somebody else said let's just raise it to 50 bucks an hour.
 

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look at you liberals citing how much it costs in taxes when you don't give a shyt about deficits and taxes otherwise...what are we arguing about here?

the rich pay the taxes so you should like punishing the rich by making them pay more

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The part that has be :bryan: is all the complaints about cost of living and how more govt. intervention is needed(in this thread) comes almost exclusively from progressive states :russ: CA & NY. No connection is being drawn as to the high cost of living in progressive states and the lower cost of living in conservative ones, we just need to bail the state out(in CA.) and give the "poor" more money.:deadmanny:
shyts insane.:wow:


Ignore the results of your handiwork brehs:heh:
 
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