Why jason collins doesnt impress me

[the mechanic]

let me give you some background then ill explain..Now you all have read or seen the NBA player who came out openly

The media is treating him as a hero and everyone is talking about his "courage"

I'm a 34-year-old NBA center. I'm black. And I'm gay.
I didn't set out to be the first openly gay athlete playing in a major American team sport. But since I am, I'm happy to start the conversation. I wish I wasn't the kid in the classroom raising his hand and saying, "I'm different." If I had my way, someone else would have already done this. Nobody has, which is why I'm raising my hand.
My journey of self-discovery and self-acknowledgement began in my hometown of Los Angeles and has taken me through two state high school championships, the NCAA Final Four and the Elite Eight, and nine playoffs in 12 NBA seasons.


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazine/news/20130429/jason-collins-gay-nba-player/#ixzz2SClk3l6h

Whatever ...

good for him..

ive got nothing against gay people BUT there is the news and theres the truth behind the news

When I was younger I dated women. I even got engaged. I thought I had to live a certain way. I thought I needed to marry a woman and raise kids with her. I kept telling myself the sky was red, but I always knew it was blue.

He was actually engaged to this woman for 8 YEARS..thats 8 years of lying and the opportunity cost to this poor girl..within those 8 years she could have met someone else and started the family she wanted had this chump had some integrity ..imagine how you would feel if someone promised to get married to you and stung you along for 8 years knowing full well at the end of it they will back out

then this

I realized I needed to go public when Joe Kennedy, my old roommate at Stanford and now a Massachusetts congressman, told me he had just marched in Boston's 2012 Gay Pride Parade. I'm seldom jealous of others, but hearing what Joe had done filled me with envy. I was proud of him for participating but angry that as a closeted gay man I couldn't even cheer my straight friend on as a spectator. If I'd been questioned, I would have concocted half truths. What a shame to have to lie at a celebration of pride.

This part has an attention whore kind of vibe to it..its like he thought to himself if a straight man marching with the pride parade can get all this attention i wonder how much more i can get by coming out.

Loyalty to my team is the real reason I didn't come out sooner. When I signed a free-agent contract with Boston last July, I decided to commit myself to the Celtics and not let my personal life become a distraction. When I was traded to the Wizards, the political significance of coming out sunk in. I was ready to open up to the press, but I had to wait until the season was over.
A college classmate tried to persuade me to come out then and there. But I couldn't yet. My one small gesture of solidarity was to wear jersey number 98 with the Celtics and then the Wizards.

@the wizards...................So basically he didnt say a word when he had something to lose but now that his career looks like its wrapping up out he comes..thats the opposite of courage and integrity.

Openness may not completely disarm prejudice, but it's a good place to start. It all comes down to education. I'll sit down with any player who's uneasy about my coming out. Being gay is not a choice. This is the tough road and at times the lonely road. Former players like Tim Hardaway, who said "I hate gay people" (and then became a supporter of gay rights), fuel homophobia. Tim is an adult. He's entitled to his opinion. God bless America. Still, if I'm up against an intolerant player, I'll set a pretty hard pick on him. And then move on.
The most you can do is stand up for what you believe in. I'm much happier since coming out to my friends and family. Being genuine and honest makes me happy.

To me this reeks of opportunism not courage ..the team will be forced to keep him on at least one more season no matter how bad he plays because they dont wanna seem like bigots..he gets to be celebrated as a hero and poster boy for "courage" gets a sports illustrated cover

Maybe they should have waited for a better hero........what does HL think

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Threads about gay people always brings out the retards on this forum.

 

[the mechanic]

Threads about gay people always brings out the retards on this forum.

I hope not..im hoping for some serious grown man conversation

Spoiler

but i know the usual suspects just wont be able to help themselves

 

[Hulk Hogan]

WELL MAYBE IT SOUNDS CYNICAL, MEAN GENE! BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, BROTHER! COMING OUT WHEN HIS CAREER WAS PROBABLY OVER RAISES THESE QUESTIONS, DUDE!

 

[Jello Biafra]

Every gay person's coming out is their own personal decision and how they choose to do it is up to them so I really don't take issue with when or how he came out.
The only thing that I do have a problem with is his playing with that white broads emotions for 8 years when he knew he wasn't into vagina. Having the occasional casual beard is one thing but to be in a long term committed relationshp that included an engagement is a shytty thing to do and you know he was running around out there getting some dikk on the side while he was with her.
That is just selfish behavior.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

yeah i cant give this dude props either

 

[daze23]

Maybe they should have waited for a better hero....

how does that work, when he was the 'first'? "hero" or not, he's the guy. should they treat him like a villain? ignore it? or try to make the best of it?

 

[daze23]

why does anyone feel the need to be "impressed" or "give him props"?

if you don't want to get caught up in it, then don't

 

[theworldismine13]

why does anyone feel the need to be "impressed" or "give him props"?

if you don't want to get caught up in it, then don't

Yep

 

[Slystallion]

Just straight stole tommy sotomayor's whole stance on it lmao

 

[Wacky D]

threadstarter is on point.

this is exactly what I was saying in the coliseum.

Every gay person's coming out is their own personal decision and how they choose to do it is up to them so I really don't take issue with when or how he came out.
The only thing that I do have a problem with is his playing with that white broads emotions for 8 years when he knew he wasn't into vagina. Having the occasional casual beard is one thing but to be in a long term committed relationshp that included an engagement is a shytty thing to do and you know he was running around out there getting some dikk on the side while he was with her.
That is just selfish behavior.

his ex-finance' is black.

 

[Mr. Negative]

let me give you some background then ill explain..Now you all have read or seen the NBA player who came out openly

The media is treating him as a hero and everyone is talking about his "courage"


Whatever ...

good for him..

ive got nothing against gay people BUT there is the news and theres the truth behind the news



He was actually engaged to this woman for 8 YEARS..thats 8 years of lying and the opportunity cost to this poor girl..within those 8 years she could have met someone else and started the family she wanted had this chump had some integrity ..imagine how you would feel if someone promised to get married to you and stung you along for 8 years knowing full well at the end of it they will back out

then this

This part has an attention whore kind of vibe to it..its like he thought to himself if a straight man marching with the pride parade can get all this attention i wonder how much more i can get by coming out.

@the wizards...................So basically he didnt say a word when he had something to lose but now that his career looks like its wrapping up out he comes..thats the opposite of courage and integrity.



To me this reeks of opportunism not courage ..the team will be forced to keep him on at least one more season no matter how bad he plays because they dont wanna seem like bigots..he gets to be celebrated as a hero and poster boy for "courage" gets a sports illustrated cover

Maybe they should have waited for a better hero........what does HL think

Yeah, I just been "whatever"ing this as far as media coverage goes. I mean, you're gay. big deal.

But since you broke it down and I actually read his statement, OP.....

yeah. fukk this dude.

edit: I mean that in the most offensive way possible. Dude poisoning the p*ssy supply for 8 years and then being an opportunistic attention whore.

ol "Hey Yall I'm Frank Ocean!" ass nikka

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

kerry rhodes somewhere like

 

[daze23]

you guys are really gonna fault him for marrying that girl? you guys are treating it like he was just like "I'm gay, but I need to act straight". that seems to be totally ignoring the reality of the situation and the pressures involved

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

you guys are really gonna fault him for marrying that girl? you guys are treating it like he was just like "I'm gay, but I need to act straight". that seems to be totally ignoring the reality of the situation and the pressures involved

cosign it wasn't like he was thinking

"I'm just gonna string this girl along for 8 years so people won't think I'm gay "

He probably tried his hardest to become heterosexual and eventually realized it wasn't working and he would never be happy unless he came out.

I mean, not only is he gay, he's black AND a professional NBA player. That's a lot of pressure involved

And he probably genuinely loved his ex-fiance but maybe not physically

He's not a "hero" by any means but I him for finally being true to himself. We got a lot of folks on this forum who could learn from his example (Mowgli)