Why isn't there a major "Black Religion"?

[Poitier]

But was there really a unified religious belief among them?

If they shared the same hunter-gatherer culture on the Sahara, its very likely. Too bad writing did not exist yet but even the religious statues found from Niger to Egypt mirror one another. Heck, even pre modern humans made the same snake, fertility, mother-son figurines.

You can say that if you want but we both know that's far from being true.

Oh, its definitely true.

 

[user1]

No they weren't and traditional african spirituality predates those anyway.

This is what I thought it was. It's not really a religion and can be followed by African. Even if you are Christian, Muslim, Jewish today. Speak to your ancestors bruh.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

If they shared the same hunter-gatherer culture o the Sahara, its very likely. Too bad writing did not exist yet but even the religious statues found from Niger to Egypt mirror one another. Heck, even pre modern humans made the same snake, fertility, mother-son figurines.



Oh, its definitely true.

Bruh my first post in this thread says that traditional African spirituality predates these religions, you wanna start throwing shots at what you think my culture is to make a point, OK, but you sound stupid.

I highly doubt OP meant primitive human belief systems in their raw stages, he was talking about full fledged developed doctrines.

 

[MaLi]

This. There was never a unifying religion/culture in Africa the way Islam spread among the arabs (or what would become the Arab world) or Christianity in Europe. Africa's very big in term of size and with an enormous linguistic and cultural diversity was never monolithic in religion/culture, even if Islam/Christianity developped a presence in the continent. A lot of the traditional beliefs still survive to this day.



There are also sources describing Muhammad as a pale-skinned male tho. I've also read that Ali Ibn Abi Talib (4th caliph and his cousin) was a dark skinned man so IDK. And there were definitely white/light skinned arabs at that time breh, even black Africans were considered different than Arabs

The most plausible ethnicity of Jesus is middle eastern breh, possibly brown skinned. Moses was most likely a dark skinned African tho

Far as Muhhammed and Arabs. Ask any Arab this question: Who is the father and mother of the Arabs? They should say Abraham and Hagard/Hajj, and their son was Ishmael. Abrham was a Chaldean. Chaldeans were described as mostly Black/Brown during that time period (Dr Ben Yosef goes over this). Hajj was an Egyptian.. Egyptians were certainly Black during that time period.

The Middle East doesnt exist. Its another word created by them to further divide and conquer. Middle eastern people today are not the same as biblical times. The bible predicts there will be imposters acting like Jews, living in their land.... Again, middle eastern people do not exist... They are Europeans, Israelies, Turks, Lebanesse, Ethiopians, Persians, "Arabs" etc etc...

There are more brownskinned Black people, than brown skinned "middle easterners"


Oh ya.. Moses was sent down the Nile right? The Nile flows "up"....

 

[Raptor]

Semetic languages are east African in origin. East Africans are Black and African.

Noah had 3 sons. Ham, Shem, and Japeth. The sons of Ham populated Africa, the Levant (Palestine), west Arabia, and south Arabia (Yemen). Ham is Black, as are his sons and grandsons (including Nimrod, son of Cush/Nubia).
Thats part of why "Afroncentrists" refer to the Levant as north Africa, and why some Black Arabs arent wrong when they refer to themsevles as Arabs. The thought process is c00nish, but its half true


Ancient Kemetic religion is Ma'at... OR their way of life was based on Maat... Either way, Blackity Black no matter how you slice it

Nope.

Afroasiatic language probably originated from the east Africa many thousands of year ago(Afroasiatic Urheimat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), but there's no doubt that Semitic langauages originated from the the Arabian peninusla. Judaism and Chiristianity in the Ethio/Eri highlands originated from the Aksumites(proto-habeshas) who had extensive trade and cultural links with West Asia and Yemen(Sabaean) . The semitic languages of Ethiopia is categorised as south semitic which also includes the Yemeni native language groups.
These links goes in depth of how Christianity and Semitic languages arrived in the Horn of Africa
http://www.dskmariam.org/artsandlitreature/litreature/pdf/aksum.pdf
Persée

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[MaLi]

Afroasiatic language probably originated from the east Africa many thousands of year ago(Afroasiatic Urheimat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), but there's no doubt that Semitic langauages originated from the the Arabian peninusla. Judaism and Chiristianity in the Ethio/Eri highlands originated from the Aksumites(proto-habeshas) who had extensive trade and cultural links with West Asia and Yemen(Sabaean) . The semitic languages of Ethiopia is categorised as south semitic which also includes the Yemeni native language groups.
These links goes in depth of how Christianity and Semitic languages arrived in the Horn of Africa
http://www.dskmariam.org/artsandlitreature/litreature/pdf/aksum.pdf
Persée

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I dont (and other Africans/Black people shouldnt either) take historical information serious unless its been reviewed and re-explained by non self-hating Black/African equivalent(s). I dont believe in letting the oppressors' representatives double as my primary source of education, ESPECIALLY African history.

I have no problem looking over their info and reading between the lines, but if our own dont cosign and reexplain it, its just more info that needs to be reexamined by US. History of racism, and modern examples of white supremacy tells me that we cant fully trust their information or interpretations when it comes to our history..... or much else for that matter











Now of course if the melanin levels are right and the 3rd eye is open, ignore my concerns of where/who the info is coming from .
Being unsure or incorrect doesnt automatically= scandalous with an agenda

 

[frankster]

Maybe because blacks were more concern with Spirituality than Religion

 

[Samori Toure]

???

It's a valid question.

No it is not.

It just shows that the person that started the thread doesn't know history.

 

[Samori Toure]

I'm saying if you were to look at the beliefs of various native tribes in Africa you would find a common theme, it's tribalism but more importantly a lack of unifying linguistic identity that kept them apart. Africa never had a Muhammad-like figure who was able to unify large swaths of people under one banner, but it was easier for the Arabs because even though there were many tribes/clans, they all spoke Arabic. With Europeans the unifying factor was the Church under Latin, in the Asian religions it was Sanskrit, etc;. The lack of linguistic unity is a major reason why there is no "major" black religion and Africans ended up succumbing to Christianity and Islam.

Moses? Egypt? Judaism? What?

 

[Samori Toure]

Judaism, christianity, and islam are semetic religions, not black African.

Aside from contributing to some surrounding belief systems, the Egyptian religion was largely localized.

The Jews were in Africa (Egypt) when Christianity came in to being. Remember Moses being in the House of Pharaoh?

 

[Samori Toure]

The overwhelming majority of Africans are not semites and those religions are not African.

LOL. White people still have Gods and religions. Thor. Zeus.

 

[HoloGraphic]

Religions are b*stardizations of Spiritual Culture. Africans and other Native peoples (such as Native American peoples) are directly connected to Spirit.

We don't need religion. It is simply another barrier between us and the truth.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Moses? Egypt? Judaism? What?

What about them?

 

[Soon]

Religions are b*stardizations of Spiritual Culture. Africans and other Native peoples (such as Native American peoples) are directly connected to Spirit.

We don't need religion. It is simply another barrier between us and the truth.

@ directly connected to the spirit.

Do you know anything about spiritual culture?

Religion is rules and doctrines, you think you can practice African spirituality without rules and doctrines? Ask any of the African practitioners and they will tell you that you have more barriers to dealing with those African spirits than you do with dealing with God.

This is the most comical thing about the whole pro African spiritual movement, people know nothing about what they promote.

Also, the IFAs will tell you their spiritual conjuring do not work against devout Christians, so the whole idea that Christians don't have spirituality is false.

I've only come across 2 or 3 people on this site who actually knew what they was talking about when it comes to African spirituality. Everyone else just like the idea about anything pro-Africa.

I'm in Ft Lauderdale, and we have those Santeria/Vodou/IFA Botanical shops all over the place especially in Miami, and talking to anyone working with the Spirits they feel pretty neutral towards Christians and don't go out of their way to take shots at them. And I feel pretty neutral towards them, and I don't go out of my way to shots at them.

Its usually the uninformed Christians, Atheist, & anti-religion types that takes that route.

 

[Fox]

We don't need religion. It is simply another barrier between us and the truth.

Agreed.

Ask any of the African practitioners and they will tell you that you have more barriers to dealing with those African spirits than you do with dealing with God.

Can you expound on this?

I just want to make sure this isn't the same "god" that parted the red sea.