Why is the NBA getting all this criticism about the game and the TV networks get off scot-free?

[Rakpo98]

Baseball fans HATE Manfred and he has done nothing but kill the MLB in his tenure. WTF are you talking about?

Old out of touch baseball fans hate Manfred. As I said in my post, baseball fans are the most rigid fans around. They’ll complain about anything that doesn’t honor or carry on tradition. The changes Manfred made are geared toward attracting casual fans (including 18-34 demographic) back to baseball. His moves so far have worked, when it comes to length of games and play on the field. Only die hard complain about the changes, just like we have diehards here on this forum who cover their eyes to the problems that plague the NBA at the current moment, and call this iteration of stars and the style of play “the best ever”.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Old out of touch baseball fans hate Manfred. As I said in my post, baseball fans are the most rigid fans around. They’ll complain about anything that doesn’t honor or carry on tradition. The changes Manfred made are geared toward attracting casual fans (including 18-34 demographic) back to baseball. His moves so far have worked, when it comes to length of games and play on the field. Only die hard complain about the changes, just like we have diehards here on this forum who cover their eyes to the problems that plague the NBA at the current moment, and call this iteration of stars and the style of play “the best ever”.

Casual fans don't give a damn what happened 3 years ago, let alone over the course of history, which flies in the face of a sport that prides itself on numbers and history.

The irony is that casuals wanted the shift banned so batting averages can go up. They actually went down even more. Only thing that happened was games got sped up (because of TV and journalists bytching about it) and we get more steals due to bigger bases.

 

[Remote]

Old out of touch baseball fans hate Manfred. As I said in my post, baseball fans are the most rigid fans around. They’ll complain about anything that doesn’t honor or carry on tradition. The changes Manfred made are geared toward attracting casual fans (including 18-34 demographic) back to baseball. His moves so far have worked, when it comes to length of games and play on the field. Only die hard complain about the changes, just like we have diehards here on this forum who cover their eyes to the problems that plague the MBA at the current moment, and call this iteration of stars and the style of play “the best ever”.

There is really only 1 thing I dislike about the current landscape of MLB

1. Pitch counts/innings limits. We know pitch counts and innings limits do not mitigate injury. There's no reason for this MOST of the time. Yet teams continue down this road.

In terms of the changes MLB has made:

1. I'm fine with the pitch clock
2. I don't love the Extra Innings rule where the runner starts on 2B. I wish they'd get rid of that. But it's not a deal breaker.
3. The larger stolen bases are fine. It has led to an increase in stolen base attempts, but I don't think it has negatively impacted the game.

In terms of the changes MLB wants to make:

1. Robot umpires/automated strike zone might be inevitable. Sometimes I want it. Sometimes I think there will be an art to the game that gets lost if it is implemented.
2. The Golden Bat idea. Objectively fukking stupid and terrible. I will never support this. Ever. Even if there's a fire!

 

[Sccit]

ADAM SILVER IS A LIMP WRIST CUCK WIT NO AUTHORITY WHO MADE MORE CHANGES TO THE GAME IN HIS FIRST COUPLE YEARS AS COMMISSIONER THAN THERE WAS IN ITS FIRST 75 YEARS.


BASICALLY TREATING THE LEAGUE LIKE HIS OWN PERSONAL EXPERIMENT AS OPPOSED TO MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF ITS TRADITION.


IN TURN, THE NBA NOW COMES OFF AS A NOVELTY LEAGUE AND NO ONE TAKES IT SERIOUS.


DUDE HAS TO GO ASAP.

 

[get these nets]

@NYC Rebel
Here is the video they ran at Stern's induction into the Sports Broadcaster's Hall if Fame

the outline/timeline of the deals signed and the marketing decisions made with and for the league's partners .

@1:58 roughly covers what I'm talking about


The link is here and the profile pretty much expands on what is shown in the video.
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Sports Broadcasting Hall of Fame

www.sportsbroadcastinghalloffame.org

 

[Nero Christ]

Look at the opening of CBS talking Lakers and Celtics. They barely mention the players. It’s all about the state and the direction the series has gone while sprinkling in a couple of names.

Let’s not pretend that these battles didn’t break down into Magic v Bird for most casuals. Before those 2, the finals were on tape delay. Fact is, the NBA hasn’t been popular like that with the American public outside of having generational talent who put asses in seats. Same thing with wrestling honestly

 

[Belize King]

These promos had a major effect when zillions of people were watching OG television. Now you got streaming services, bootleg streaming sites, hacked firesticks, etc.

Those promos today would be ineffective because the audience is fractured into many different platforms for viewing not just “NBC at 8pm”

This!

Our leisure time is split up in too many different ways now as well. Plus, who has cable anymore? I haven’t had cable since 2011 hence why I have to catch the broadcast games or bootleg them. My whole family in Belize has the hacked fire sticks so they can catch any and everything.

If Silver went after the bootleg sites, ratings would go up but at what expense?

Not really, in terms of franchise value for example, MLB’s floor is closer to the NHL than the NBA.

the Pelicans are worth more than the Grizzlies?

That Zion effect.

 

[Remote]

I don't understand this argument.

"That worked when everyone watched TV"

So, you can't advertise and promote online and social media and apps?

How fukkin hard is it to cut a promo and post it on Tiktok?

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Sports betting/Vegas will keep the top of the NBA hierarchy well fed for now.The fans? Fukk y'all

 

[Surreal]

Should be a NBA primetime game on NBC every Wednesday night

Not streaming, not Peacock, or none of that shyt but regular ass TV

 

[SchoolboyC]

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Should be a NBA primetime game on NBC every Wednesday night

Not streaming, not Peacock, or none of that shyt but regular ass TV

NBC will be airing games on Tuesdays next season and on Sundays after NFL season ends

 

[Surreal]

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NBC will be airing games on Tuesdays next season and on Sundays after NFL season ends

Finally

I've been saying this for the past couple years

These weekly games be good and the public is missing most of them

 

[Rekkapryde]

Even with magic vs bird they still pushed Showtime as a collective,The Celtics as a collective,fo-fo-fo wasn’t marketed as just Moses but the Sixers , Bad Boy Pistons … Nike and the NBA made everything about Jordan . Magic /Bird era wasn’t the same .

this

 

[pete clemenza]

Because Silver could help solve a lot of these problems if he really wanted to do so, but is too bytchmade to do anything about it.

We've seen many times before of the NFL putting their foot in TV networks necks to inspire change or put them in place.

Facts, Silver just reuped with all the badmouth sh*t talkers and gave them new life too

 

[tremonthustler1]

Finally

I've been saying this for the past couple years

These weekly games be good and the public is missing most of them

Much of their product is gonna be either on Peacock or on USA at worst.

As long as D1ck Wolf and Lorne Michaels run that network, there's only but so much time the network itself is gonna devote during the week to sports, and when that happens, they better kill the ratings because if NBC starts losing to FBI and all their spinoffs, they're gonna move everything but the playoffs to streaming.