Why is Rick Ross ice-cold right now?
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2019 and he had the hottest verse on Meek’s album
You clowns are out of touch
You clowns are out of touch
murksiderock
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I’m not a fan of his music, but I can’t deny that 50 has unquestionably had a better career than Ross. Or, at least, they’re in the same lane. His successful investments in Hollywood properties places him above Ross, imo.
To clarify, when I compare rappers, I'm talking about rapping, not shyt that has nothing to do with rap criteria...
Ross lapped 50 right around Rich Forever. 50 is not on his level, I'm not sure 50 is even on a Top 40 GOAT list. The biggest thing we can say about Fif is his one year run (2003) is GOAT level for one year runs, and his popularity from 2003-05 or so is GOAT level. His mixtape run in 2002 is legendary. All in all, 50's best years were early in his career, he was already on the decline by the time he lost that sales battle to Ye in '07...
So being generous, because I really feel like Fif's prime was 02-05, we'll stretch it and say his best 5 years was 2002-2007...
Ross didn't come out as hard, actually, he was kinda wack. He was on the upswing by Trilla, but you can say Ross prime started in 2009. 2009-2014, he had a legit 5-year prime--->don't conflate the two, Fif was still popular but was making ass music 5 years in...
In 5 years, this is what Fif gave us:
2002
•Guess Who's Back
•50 Cent Is The Future
•No Fear No Mercy
•Gods Plan
2003
•Get Rich Or Die Tryin
•Beg For Mercy
2004
•Buck and Banks album
2005
•Game and Yayo album
•The Massacre
•GRODT movie
2006
NOTHING
2007
•Curtis
14 Top 40 singles, 3 #1's, 5 Top 40 features
His name was still big going into this decade, but he was done by '07. His 3-year run is legendary though (2002-2005)...
This is what The Boss gave us:
2009
•Deeper Than Rap
•Triple C's
2010
•Albert Anastasia
•Teflon Don
•Ashes To Ashes
2011
•Wale album, Meek DC1
•Self Made Vol 1
2012
•Meek album, Wale Folarin
•Meek DC2
•Rich Forever
•God Forgives I Don't
•Black Bar Mitzvah
•Self Made Vol 2
2013
•Self Made Vol 3
•The H
•Meek DC3
•Wale album
2014
• Mastermind
•Hood Billionaire
•Wale tape
2 Top 40 singles, 9 Top 40 features...
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50 had a crossover appeal Ross never had, reflected in why he outsold Ross and had more #1 and Top 40 hits. But Ross in his prime was the more coveted feature artist...
Aside from all that though, Ross is a better lyricist by a mile and has the better catalog. I don't think they are far apart, but I can't buy an argument that places 50 above Ross. Just from a songwriting, album, technical rap skill standpoint, Rosa is the better rapper...
Ineedmoney504
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I have Ross top 10. But ti was a much bigger artist at his peakAnd you sound like you’ve been living under a rock. TI’s music was NEVER as heavy in the streets as Ross’. fukkouttahere.
Ross might have had the same amount of black fans but he never had the crossover ti had
Piff Perkins
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Simple: women aren't checking for him. Hit records tend to be records women are bumping, or dudes are bumping heavily in the club or car. He doesn't have the women, and dudes have too many better options for that type of music.
The Coli is slow as usual.
He lost alot of support from Black women after the "molly in her champagne" situation. Alot of them got creeped out from that situation
No Black artist is capable of being big without the support of Black women. That goes for whether the artist is male or female. This applies to all genres.
All artists have had controversies, but because Ross is a fat Black nikka it was easy for black women to drop their support of him.
Women drive what music the club plays so their loss in interest in Ross caused a ripple effect
He lost alot of support from Black women after the "molly in her champagne" situation. Alot of them got creeped out from that situation
No Black artist is capable of being big without the support of Black women. That goes for whether the artist is male or female. This applies to all genres.
All artists have had controversies, but because Ross is a fat Black nikka it was easy for black women to drop their support of him.
Women drive what music the club plays so their loss in interest in Ross caused a ripple effect
I Really Mean It
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Oops. Didn't know you were talking about Ye.
Cuz he got sick......it’s hard to mimic an untouchable Don when ya health seems frail.......plus hip hop just get younger daily
He should still be hot cuz he still likely nice, but we live in a shallow society and appearance is a lot of it
He should still be hot cuz he still likely nice, but we live in a shallow society and appearance is a lot of it
HIs last few albums have been incredible.
I don't expect 19 year old pill heads with ADD to listen to him.
Just keep dropping heat for the folks that appreciate it.
I don't expect 19 year old pill heads with ADD to listen to him.
Just keep dropping heat for the folks that appreciate it.
I agree with you in the sense that at this point in my life I'd rather listen to Rick Ross than 50 but I don't see why you're attempting to quantify preference. You're using the 9 Top 40 features thing to attempt to prove that Ross was "the more coveted feature artist" but how are you a more coveted feature than a guy who's a much bigger star than you? The point of a feature is to maximise the overlap between your respective audiences and Ross never had as many people checking for his music or have as many eyes on him as 50, ever. Your numbers lack context, are you arguing that Ross was the reason those songs got hot? Are you arguing that a feature from Ross during his prime did more for your career at that time than a feature from the #1 guy? Are we going to act like 50 Cent wasn't beefing with/shytting on damn near every relevant rapper during his run which obviously would affect the songs they're featured on? Beyond that:
- How many songs were they featured on?
- Where did those songs chart?
- Who were the main artists?
- Who were the other featured artists (if any)?
She said Phillipe he thinking wing stop. In hindsight he shoulda picked phillipe because wing stop ain’t that good. 
I give it to the lemon pepper but still.
I give it to the lemon pepper but still.
Devil Plisken…CMS
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Big 3...Kanye done
Devil Plisken…CMS
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Don’t fall for Confirmation Bias
Devil Plisken…CMS
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Whether I agree or not doesn’t matter but kudos to you for a balanced assessment